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MSUcougar 08-25-2005 11:19 PM

Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
From just a few minutes ago in the Super... no real reads on raiser...

Note his stack and my stack... is this a call, push or fold? I'd love to get some opinions on "proper" big stack play in mid stages...

***** Hand History for Game 2598400633 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:15161199 Level:7 Blinds (100/200) - Thursday, August 25, 23:12:04 EDT 2005
Table Super Thursday(436702) Table #11 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: MSUcougar ( $7978 )
Seat 6: kreinha1 ( $3590 )
Seat 9: TheWarden01 ( $2775 )
Seat 10: meontilt ( $2025 )
Seat 4: jsbGonzo ( $4075 )
Seat 1: Loosygoosy ( $3940 )
Seat 3: Pokerbabe04 ( $1420 )
Seat 2: HelpImBad ( $3070 )
Seat 7: calmjackal ( $4373 )
Seat 8: ACEVIPER ( $1056 )
Trny:15161199 Level:7
Blinds (100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MSUcougar [ Qs Ah ]
meontilt raises [800].
Loosygoosy folds.
HelpImBad folds.
Pokerbabe04 folds.
jsbGonzo folds.
MSUcougar ???

Lloyd 08-25-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
There was a pretty good thread started by woodguy on this topic awhile ago. I think it might be archived at this point. Check it out.

ononimo 08-25-2005 11:26 PM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
any hints as to words to search for or how long ago?

ononimo 08-25-2005 11:29 PM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
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There was a pretty good thread started by woodguy on this topic awhile ago. I think it might be archived at this point. Check it out.

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found it: woodguy's big stack thread

bobbycharles 08-25-2005 11:39 PM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
I have trouble with this play too, so I'm anxious to see others opinions.

I'm usually too aggressive here and come over the top to put him all in. Thus, I get burned a lot of the time to his AK or PP.

A fold here seems too tight to me without a good read. After all you've got AQ, good, but not great....now I'm talking myself into a fold...if he has AK or better you're toast....and then what if an Ace flops...hope that he'll passively play his JJ and just check to you?

A smooth call may be too passive, but you could at least see a flop and play it out.

This dilema may be why I usually opt for the big re-raise and put him all in. Force him to make the decision...of course he's got 25% of his money in the pot. Aaaahhh!

Others please post!!!

08-25-2005 11:51 PM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
call and make a 1000 bet on the flop then see what he does.

MSUcougar 08-26-2005 12:31 AM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
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call and make a 1000 bet on the flop then see what he does.

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He's gonna be acting first and almost certainly pushes any flop I think...

shaniac 08-26-2005 12:36 AM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
I don't see a problem with gambling here. Helps to have a read, but considering this is online, I'd say push.

MSUcougar 08-26-2005 02:49 AM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
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I don't see a problem with gambling here. Helps to have a read, but considering this is online, I'd say push.

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Well if I assume he's an average, thinking online player, I put him on TT-22 or AK-AT... basically, the kind of hand he's willing to play for all his chips but one he'd rather just take the blinds with... so I don't figure to be dominated here (unless it's exactly AK)... I think a push here is a solid play given the stack sizes...

Unfortunately in the actual hand, I decided to fold, so I don't know what he had...

Thoughts on my hand range/analysis?

08-26-2005 04:27 AM

Re: Playing a Big Stack in Mid Stages
 
I say push here. You have him way outchipped and you have some leeway to gamble. He doesnt. I say you push. Double what he has put in the pot. Basically this tells you where you stand in the hand. Also this tells him he cant just call its either all his chips or nothing. Put the pressure on him. Even if he goes allin it doesnt hurt your stack much and i bet you have two overs i'm guessing he has 10's or J's. Push is the only way to go in this spot.


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