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Str8Fish 12-15-2005 11:14 PM

AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB.

UTG+1 is an unknown
MP2 is a rock 19.51 VP$IP, 3.66 PFR, 0.81 AF
SB is an unknown
BB is LA-P 31.33 VP$IP, 5.58 PFR, 0.65 AF
The aggression factors include the PF numbers.

The pot was becoming huge. I know I was drawing to two overcards after the flop. I raised to see if I could eliminate the other players. As you can see, after that raise, the pot became HUGE. I feel like I should have either folded or just called on the flop. Any thoughts?

ajm36 12-15-2005 11:23 PM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
With this many people, I would have called the flop and hoped to hit the turn and raise here, but I am folding the turn UI.

12-15-2005 11:35 PM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
I'm not much for the AJo preflop raise over two limpers from there, but it bought you the button so I guess it's okay. I still just call though. I really am not a big fan of the flop raise. No one with a pair is folding, no one has a flush or straight draw, so the only people you're going to push out are hands that you have dominated. You don't mind hands like KJ sticking around, since you don't have a hand to protect. Not to mention, look at MP2's stats! A rock is betting into you. This is not the time to try to push out AQ. Edit: So call the flop, folding here is pretty bad I think.

Turn is good, especially after the flop 3-bet that meant 99-JJ, 88, 44, or 33.

12-16-2005 12:50 AM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
MP2 is telling you he has a hand. Lowish AF and a rock? He's not 3-betting on a whim. I'd call the flop and then fold the turn. You should have at least folded after the re-raise on the flop.

bottomset 12-16-2005 02:38 AM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
that is a terrible flop raise

milesdyson 12-16-2005 02:57 AM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
lose money money money lose money money

@bsolute_luck 12-16-2005 07:28 AM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
[ QUOTE ]
MP2 is a rock 19.51 VP$IP, 3.66 PFR, 0.81 AF

[/ QUOTE ]

and you bluff raise his donkbet? i think you're in serious trouble when you do this. call...maybe, but usually a rock only does this with a set in this big field.

12-16-2005 01:04 PM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
grunch

AJo is primarily a top pair hand, when it misses you have to be really careful. MP2 is a rock and he's donk bet you. With a board that completely misses, I can fold on the flop.

12-16-2005 01:14 PM

Re: AJo in a pot that is becoming big
 
WHY DID YOU RAISE THE FLOP????????????


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