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11-09-2005 11:37 AM

How to respond?
 
I was in a 10+1 at party, early in the game with no reads. I was determined to play a tight game. I was wondering about how people think I should have played the following preflop situation (perhaps it is very easy but I am not sure):

Seat 1:(800)
Seat 3:(830)
Seat 4:(785)
Seat 5: hero (800)
Seat 7:(2450)
Seat 8:(785)
Seat 9:(800)
Seat 10:(750)
Seat 4 posts small blind (10)
hero posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ As, Kh ]
seat 7 folds.
seat 8 folds.
seat 9 folds.
seat 10 calls (15)
seat 1 folds.
seat 3 raises (55) to 55
seat 4 raises (85) to 95

hero?

Hornacek 11-09-2005 11:38 AM

Re: How to respond?
 
Fold or shove, depending on how the $11s play these days. From what I've heard, a shove is totally ok here.

splashpot 11-09-2005 11:40 AM

Re: How to respond?
 
If you think seat 3 will re-raise, I'd fold. If you don't think so, I'd call and see if I catch an A or K on the flop.

11-09-2005 11:41 AM

Re: How to respond?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold or shove, depending on how the $11s play these days. From what I've heard, a shove is totally ok here.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, I personally will fold, mainly because at my current level ($5 SNGS on stars) I believe I can outplay my opponents and finish in the money the majority of the time anyway, so doubling up here isn't really necessary, and I've rather have 800 chips than none at all.

splashpot 11-09-2005 11:41 AM

Re: How to respond?
 
I suppose shoving is OK too, I usually don't do it though. Maybe if the pot were a little bigger.

11-09-2005 11:47 AM

Re: How to respond?
 
If you're going to play, then push. You want to see all five cards. AK push against standard range is +1.2 BB but only +.4 BB with a call (considering FE).

SonnyJay 11-09-2005 12:28 PM

Re: How to respond?
 
Granted I haven't played the $11s in a while, but from what I remember this is usually a sign that there's a pocket pair out there. I don't think there's enough dead money to justify a coinflip here (I could be wrong though) from a prize pool equity perspective, so I tend to go along with splashpot's first post that if you don't feel that seat 3 will reraise I'd call and look at a flop. This is hard to judge, so I figure I'd probably just call given a typical opponent.

-SonnyJay

junkmail3 11-09-2005 12:31 PM

Re: How to respond?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If you think seat 3 will re-raise, I'd fold. If you don't think so, I'd call and see if I catch an A or K on the flop.

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Well, the reraier only minraised, so that sends up a few flags. But it is the 10's so it could mean anything.

I'd call this, if it gets popped again it's going to be an all in by someone, so you can call here and fold to a push.

11-09-2005 12:33 PM

Re: How to respond?
 
Is there a way to calculate EV at the table (against standard hands)? I know of the online calculator, but it is not too useful in the heat of the game!! Do people just memorise the EV for each hand in a given situation?

Oh and I am sure the advice is right. I called, the flop fell:

[ 3c, 2s, Jh ]

Seat 3 bet 250 and I folded.

I couldn't bear folding AKo preflop, but I didn't have the guts to push and risk busting out of the tourney in the third hand..

In the end, I finished second.

splashpot 11-09-2005 12:36 PM

Re: How to respond?
 
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I couldn't bear folding AKo preflop, but I didn't have the guts to push and risk busting out of the tourney in the third hand..

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You shouldn't think like this. Folding AK is perfectly fine in some situations. And it being the 3rd hand should have absolutely no impact on your decision.


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