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pokergrader 12-30-2005 07:43 PM

So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
http://www.pokergrader.com/nl.png

I guess I'll have to drop back down to .01/.02 NL [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Burdzthewurd 12-30-2005 07:53 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Completing the SB a little too much there..post some hands

TheMainEvent 12-30-2005 07:58 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
This game is a 2/5 blind structure, correct? Def should be folding SB more often.

pokergrader 12-30-2005 08:01 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($67.73)
Hero ($40.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero raises $40.70 (All-In), <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $37.70.

Flop: ($81.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($81.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($81.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $81.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has Ks Ad (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $81.74. </font>

pokergrader 12-30-2005 08:02 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($21.70)
UTG ($72.22)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO (poster) calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises $20.70 (All-In)</font>, CO folds, SB folds, UTG calls $19.70.

Turn: ($45.90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($45.90) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $45.90

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has 3h 3c (full house, threes full of fours).
Hero has 6s 9s (flush, jack high).
Outcome: UTG wins $45.90. </font>

pokergrader 12-30-2005 08:03 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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This game is a 2/5 blind structure, correct? Def should be folding SB more often.

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I'm pretty sure I have enough implied odds to call with any hand pre-flop.

TheMainEvent 12-30-2005 08:04 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Don't slowplay so much

the_main 12-30-2005 08:10 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Don't slowplay so much

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Quicksilvre 12-30-2005 09:40 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
[edited to remove weak-tight advice [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]]
And, why are you raising pre-flop with 96s?

Rosie5 12-30-2005 09:49 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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I don't like the all-in with the nine-high flush. Bet, to be sure, but I think that hands like [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q and [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 are going to give you trouble. When you shove all that money in, the only ones that are going to call are folks with bigger flushes, big flush draws, and trips.

And, why are you raising pre-flop with 96s?

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why is it a problem that people will call off all their money with bigger flush draws and trips in this situation?

I'll take the flush, you can have trips and we'll do the flop push situation a few hundred times ok? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Quicksilvre 12-30-2005 09:51 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Actually, you're right, scratch that. Pushing is right on the flop. I still don't like the pre-flop play, though.

Dang it, you had to quote me, too. Now my dopeyness is going to be up there forever [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

pokergrader 12-30-2005 10:03 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Actually, you're right, scratch that. Pushing is right on the flop. I still don't like the pre-flop play, though.

Dang it, you had to quote me, too. Now my dopeyness is going to be up there forever [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Your advice isn't horribly wrong, dont worry about it.

Quicksilvre 12-30-2005 10:50 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Actually, you're right, scratch that. Pushing is right on the flop. I still don't like the pre-flop play, though.

Dang it, you had to quote me, too. Now my dopeyness is going to be up there forever [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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Your advice isn't horribly wrong, dont worry about it.

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Ed Miller would probably beat me with a wet noodle if he read it [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Seriously, you are a favorite against the big draw and the set. If you can go all in and get called, then you ought to do it.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1435557
pokenum -h 6c 9c - ad ac -- 2c 3c 5c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5c 3c 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9c 6c 720 72.73 270 27.27 0 0.00 0.727
Ac Ad 270 27.27 720 72.73 0 0.00 0.273

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1435559
pokenum -h 6c 9c - 5d 5h -- 2c 3c 5c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 5c 3c 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9c 6c 659 66.57 331 33.43 0 0.00 0.666
5d 5h 331 33.43 659 66.57 0 0.00 0.334

The board isn't exactly the same in these as the one in your post, but the numbers come out pretty much the same.

The ironic thing is, I'm up 80 BB tonight in the NL 25 game.

Sponger15SB 12-30-2005 10:54 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Good god I'd kill myself if I ever lost $200 @ $25nl let alone in 121 hands.

pokergrader 12-30-2005 11:06 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Good god I'd kill myself if I ever lost $200 @ $25nl let alone in 121 hands.

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My suicide note will be the KK v AK hand history with player chat.

Its no fun talking trash if your degree all-in moment hand does not hold up!

tomahawk 12-31-2005 02:06 AM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Good god I'd kill myself if I ever lost $200 @ $25nl let alone in 121 hands.

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My suicide note will be the KK v AK hand history with player chat.

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lmao

Monty Cantsin 12-31-2005 02:29 AM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
Looks like you lost 4 buy-ins plus a generous tip.

/mc

Kyle 12-31-2005 03:24 AM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
quit playing bad or do the sensible thing which is a hell of a lot more fun

jman220 12-31-2005 03:27 AM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Completing the SB a little too much there..post some hands

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And here the first thing that drew my attention was a 60% VP$IP. I mean, yeah its only 121 hands, i guess you can be running really hot witih preflop starting hands...

boondockst 12-31-2005 10:27 AM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
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Dang it, you had to quote me, too. Now my dopeyness is going to be up there forever

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You were serious? Jeezus man, some people take this stuff seriously.

Quicksilvre 12-31-2005 02:24 PM

Re: So I decide to take a shot at NL25
 
It's a good thing I don't follow my own advice [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


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