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TWINUNO 07-21-2005 10:42 PM

Whats my line here?
Seat 4 is a complete donk, limping with hands like qt raising j9.. got lucky in a few spots. I know his raise might mean a lil stronger of a hand then what hes playing but at shorthanded table i feel liek my A10s would be best.
Easy Fold? Push?

***** Hand History for Game 2402286838 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14139918 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, July 21, 22:38:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 18322 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: RyanThaRizza ( $3185 )
Seat 10: looserlou ( $1575 )
Seat 6: twinlentini ( $910 )
Seat 1: wrobo1501 ( $2330 )
Trny:14139918 Level:4
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to twinlentini [ Th Ah ]
ooserlou folds.
wrobo1501 folds.
RyanThaRizza raises [250].

Benholio 07-21-2005 10:44 PM

Re: Whats my line here?
I'd push here given your read that your opponent could be on a wide range of hands. Without reads, this would be pretty close, but I still might push.

bluewilde 07-21-2005 10:48 PM

Re: Whats my line here?
Yeah, this looks like a time to fire; he's probably stealing if this sized bet is in charachter. If 2.5 BB is his typical dicking around raise (as per j9 qt mentioned above), then yeah, I think this is your spot.

If, however, this is a smaller raise, i.e. if he's been raising more strongly and this is a smaller amount, that sets off some warning bells for me (the maniacs love to get cute small raising huge hands). It's actually enough to make me pass on this one till I can a) steal more from the other players or b) fight back at him when I'm more sure of the relative strength of my hand.

So yeah, it's read dependent, but I'm inclined to push.

TWINUNO 07-21-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Whats my line here?
Maybe silly but do you think a call would be appropiate and thne push any flop? I would be putting all my chips in the middle, maybe it would give me more of a chance to fold? I have been seeing thins alot even on TV the other day in one of the WSOP events where a guy had 77 and the other AK. Ak reraised back all in and giving the guy proper odds to call. 77 drew out on him and hit his flush.

bluewilde 07-21-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Whats my line here?
What makes a stop-and-go work is position. If you wanna call and push any flop, you need to be able to act first. Were you in the SB ( would have pushed), this could work. With you in the BB, Mr. super-aggressive may decide to put you all in acting first on the flop, and then you lose the chance to force him out.

The merit to the "call/push any flop" plan is that, preflop, the aggressor might like his hand too much to fold, but after the flop, he might not. The key, however, is that you be able to act first. So I'm not sure I like call/push any flop, I think based on your read, you need to push preflop or fold.

curtains 07-21-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Whats my line here?
clear allin, your hand is way too strong headsup and you are in 4th place out of 4 ,not even close.

ChuckNorris 07-21-2005 11:20 PM

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nate_king1 07-21-2005 11:32 PM

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