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Fianchetto 03-04-2005 01:48 PM

Quick question about my turned nuts
 
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Maybe this is a simple one, but just want to double check. My opponents in this hand are reasonable players from what I've seen so far.

I open raise from UTG+2 with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 1 MP caller, SB calls.

3 players (3.5BB)

Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB check, I bet, MP calls, SB calls.

3 players (5BB)

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet, MP calls, SB raises, I...

Raise or call? Why?

HoldEm_Hero 03-04-2005 02:00 PM

Re: Quick question about my turned nuts
 
I will call because of not wanting to donate more money to the rake since your more than likely splitting the pot anyway. I might put in one more raise and if he caps then check it down but if he just calls, it could persuade me to bet again on an offsuit non board pairing river. Hope this helps. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

stoxtrader 03-04-2005 02:13 PM

Re: Quick question about my turned nuts
 
call, and pray 1 of you 3 does not have a king but comes along anyway. likely whatever you do makes you the same amount though.

CardSharpCook 03-04-2005 02:35 PM

Re: Quick question about my turned nuts
 
I like calling here, hopefully the MP will think his "whatever" is still good and come along for the ride. you are probably splitting the pot with the other guy, and there is no way to bet him out, but you can bet out the MP, don't do it.

The other reason is, if you raise here, you will get no caller except those with kings. If the turn raiser doesn't have a king, he'll likely fold if you raise. Keep him in and let him bluff again.

CSC

CanKid 03-04-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Quick question about my turned nuts
 
Does anyone's decision change if hero holds K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ?

JohnnyHumongous 03-04-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Quick question about my turned nuts
 
This is a call I feel. Raising might push out MP1 if he has just one pair. Also your opponent might be free-rolling if he has two spades, one of which is the King. Of course if one or both opponents have 2 pair or a set then raising is best to charge them for drawing to a boat...

Fianchetto 03-04-2005 06:34 PM

Results
 
I 3-bet, MP folded, SB capped.

River was a blank, SB bet, I raised, he called.

We chopped it up, he had K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

MP claimed to have mucked two pair, and SB berated me for 3-betting the turn.

My thinking was to charge anyone with less than a straight the max, but MP may have hung around for another bet or two if I hadn't reraised. Thing is, he was drawing live.


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