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People_Mover 11-21-2005 12:29 PM

I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
Absolute 15K Guar. 10.00 Rebuy. Just after the break, I doubled added on, so i'm in for 50.00 with a slightly above avg. stack. Table has been TAG the whole time.

75/150 - 3 limpers to Hero on the Button with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and I pop it to 600. All call. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Flop J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Check, check, CO (9200) leads for 1400...

Hero (8800)???

I get confused here because I don't know if I'm ahead or behind and it'll cost atleast a 1/3 of my stack to find out. What's the line from here?

DONTUSETHIS 11-21-2005 12:39 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
I think i would raise preflop a little more to say 800 or so to try to really thin the field. The flop is a tough spot. I think the CO would have the largest range of hands since both the other limpers called and he was getting such a good price. I think you are in a raise or fold spot. I would raise him to about 3000 and probably go broke on this hand if he has me beat.

11-21-2005 12:40 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
I think you really need to raise more preflop. 800-1k. KK's not that great multiway, especially with a pretty big stack against other pretty big stacks.

four2flush 11-21-2005 12:43 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
Looks like TPTK. Need to raise at least 1400 to let him know you can beat board. He'll probably call and out draw for the ace. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Jah Red 11-21-2005 12:44 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
Your 4x BB raise has this guy believing you have AK so he leads out figuring you fold. A healthy raise here will tell him otherwise and he may even call with his AJ.

If by some chance he called with a suited Q9 or 79 well so be it, he got lucky.

betgo 11-21-2005 12:52 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
Raise more preflop as everyone said. With 3 limpers, 1000 is standard, but you could raise less if you are afraid everyone would fold to that.

Terrible flop to play 4-way with KK. You are going to get action. There is a lot of possibilities of straight draws, top pair, 2-pair, or sets. You maybe need to decide whether to fold or go all the way.

bugstud 11-21-2005 12:54 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
can we ban everyone that said raise a lot more?

hand is fine thus far and you're in a really rough spot. You can jam now and pray he stacks off with a draw, or you suckout. Or, call the flop and fold to significant turn action, but that makes me queasy.

betgo 11-21-2005 01:01 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
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can we ban everyone that said raise a lot more?

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No, this isn't the WPT forum.

Why would you raise to 4xBB at 3 limpers with KK? Are you afraid no one would call 5xBB?

11-21-2005 01:07 PM

Re: I want to stick my head in the sand with this KK hand.
 
[ QUOTE ]
can we ban everyone that said raise a lot more?

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I think that'd be a little excessive, but feel free to flame us if we're wrong (I'm absolutely not being sarcastic). Why do you think raising less is better?

People_Mover 11-21-2005 01:16 PM

FLOP ACTION to Hero
 
CO leads for 1400 into the 2500 pot....

Hero raises to 3400....folds back to CO who pushes.

Get out now or did we come to far to look back?


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