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checkmate36 11-25-2005 07:55 PM

KQo flops QAA now what?
 
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Table is a mixture of fish and calling stations with one taz who is not in this hand.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero ??

UTG+1 has played 100% of his hands thus far (2 orbits) and is passive. SB raised from the BB with 57o after 7 players were already in for one bet on an earlier hand. The button was rated gambler using harv's rules for PT.

Thanks for any suggestions

Spota 11-25-2005 08:26 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
I raise to see where SB stands. UTG+1 probably will stay for the ride.

If turn is a blank I will bet\raise again.

11-25-2005 08:36 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
I'd really like some better reads here.

HU I'd play this WA/WB.

As is is, I'd probably raise the flop and call down if the SB 3 bets and UTG+1 doesn't suddenly wake up.

cold_cash 11-25-2005 08:41 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
I think raising is your worst option.

PokerSparky 11-25-2005 09:11 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
WA/WB. Fold if its ever two back to you. Bet if checked to.

checkmate36 11-25-2005 09:49 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think raising is your worst option.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why is that?

11-25-2005 10:05 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
Im going to raise this hand deffinitely.

checkmate36 11-25-2005 10:11 PM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
Hero raised the flop.

I want to make sure Im correct in my reason for raising.

-pot was large so folding at this point I felt was wrong.

-calling doesn't define my hand against the other players possible holdings. An Ace will 3-bet or donk the turn most likely and I will know Im beat.

-raising is the only option left and if my hand is good we want more loot into the pot.

cold_cash 11-26-2005 07:09 AM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
Will the SB never 3-bet the flop or call and bet the turn with a worse hand?

Basically I don't want to have to fold, and I'm not overly concerned about draws.

If I somehow knew the SB would never go 3-bets with QT or 77 and the Button had a gut-shot, then I don't mind raising. Since the SB seems like a spaz I can't be too sure of the first part, and the second part seems fairly unlikely.

I don't like raising and folding to a 3-bet when there's a chance I'm miles ahead, especially when I'm getting at least 2 to 1 on my money by calling.

checkmate36 11-26-2005 10:19 AM

Re: KQo flops QAA now what?
 
At my current ability its going to be hard to continue playing the hand if my flop raise gets 3-bet.

I remember a quote I heard on a past post...

Id be folding faster than superman at a laundry mat [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I thought that was funny at the time. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


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