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AngryCola 01-18-2005 09:14 PM

Starcraft
 
In the interest of keeping my sanity, I thought I would quit talking about things which are personally upsetting to me.

So...

Who plays or used to play Starcraft?
Anybody interested in playing a game or two sometime?

I used to play back in the day, but I haven't played much recently. However, during the last week or so I've been getting crazy urges to play this game.

Anybody up for a match in the next few days PM me or post on this thread. I won't be checking back here until tomorrow.

IggyWH 01-18-2005 09:41 PM

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I used to play but haven't in a long time. I could be up for a match.

Stork 01-18-2005 10:10 PM

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Man I used to play this game all the time. I still have it, but haven't played it in months since I've been playing more poker. My account still probably exists though on the East server.

P.S. Broodwars sucks [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! 01-18-2005 10:16 PM

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Im sure buster will play you. I get owned at that game.

lastchance 01-18-2005 10:37 PM

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Old game... Haven't played it for a while either.

Best RTS ever, though. And to use a 2+2 saying, "And it's not even close."

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:23 AM

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I'll play but only on Lost Temple

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:25 AM

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I'll play but only on Lost Temple

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You couldn't handle my Carrier rush on a money map.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:27 AM

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I just hate money maps. It takes the skill out of the game if you are playing competively.

DontRaisePlz 01-19-2005 12:27 AM

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Carriers = Instant GG.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:28 AM

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gg no re thx~

Stork 01-19-2005 12:28 AM

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Agreed, money maps blow. I'll play any blizzard map, but my favorites are blood bath, lost temple, hunters, and sometimes going 2v3 on island hop is fun.

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:28 AM

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I just hate money maps. It takes the skill out of the game if you are playing competively.

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Why? Everyone's in the same boat.

The only thing I hate about money maps is you can seriously cripple someone with a zergling rush early. Once you slow someone's build, they are phucked.

pshreck 01-19-2005 12:29 AM

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From what I can remember, the carrier rush ruined competitive play for several months before balances were created and people learned how to beat it.

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:30 AM

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From what I can remember, the carrier rush ruined competitive play for several months before balances were created and people learned how to beat it.

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It's not hard to beat carriers, you just got to control your guys. You can't put them on attach move or else they just keep trying to kill the intercepters. You got to attack each carrier and screw the intercepters.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:31 AM

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Carriers suck.

Stork 01-19-2005 12:31 AM

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Carriers pawn, especially on lost temple.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:32 AM

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I never saw a professional player win using carriers.

A Starcraft game is over in under 15 mins.

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:33 AM

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A Starcraft game is over in under 15 mins.

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Rushing sux

DontRaisePlz 01-19-2005 12:33 AM

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When the spawn pool became harder to build, ling rushes became worthless.

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:34 AM

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When the spawn pool became harder to build, ling rushes became worthless.

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Harder? Has there been an update since I last played like 6 months ago? It only cost like 200 minerals which wasn't exactly hard.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:34 AM

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Who's up for a reg game of Starcraft? 1v1 melee LT

My Brood War cd has failed to run any more [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:35 AM

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Who's up for a reg game of Starcraft? 1v1 melee LT

My Brood War cd has failed to run any more [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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That's what bootlegs are for [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:36 AM

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Technically rushing is a rush within 2 mins.

The game, competetively played, is over in 10-15 mins. You constantly attack, well usually.

Anyway, anyone up for a game? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

DontRaisePlz 01-19-2005 12:36 AM

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Well, when it used to cost 150 and had a quicker build time, zerg rushes had some value. After the patch, they became almost obsolete. Any decent player shouldve been able to stop them, even if they had to resort to using worker units.

I guess you are too used to the 200 mineral pool to even notice anymore.

Dr. Strangelove 01-19-2005 12:50 AM

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Carriers are terrible. Hydralisks and Dragoons are the most important units in the game.

Stork 01-19-2005 12:51 AM

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I never saw a professional player win using carriers.

A Starcraft game is over in under 15 mins.

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That's a pretty broad statement. I have, for the record, seen carriers used by expert players, and utilized well. Late game protoss, they are great to attack expansions with when you position them over the cliffs so that they are in the shadows and only the interceptors fly out and hit the workers. Also good for taking out island expos. Every unit has a use, to say that 'x unit sucks' is stupid.
Also, I have played tons of games that go 30-40 minutes.
And on the topic of zergling rushes, a pool used to cost 150 but that was cheap because a 6ling rush was unstoppable on all but the largest maps so they bumped the cost up to 200. And it's not impossible to zergling rush with the upgrade, but it isn't rediculously easy either.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:52 AM

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Well my BW disc is actually working, so who wants a game right now?

IggyWH 01-19-2005 12:52 AM

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Well, when it used to cost 150 and had a quicker build time, zerg rushes had some value. After the patch, they became almost obsolete. Any decent player shouldve been able to stop them, even if they had to resort to using worker units.

I guess you are too used to the 200 mineral pool to even notice anymore.

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If a ling rush defeats you, then you suck and need to uninstall SC. What I'm saying though a ling rush can criple your build early and if anything will slow you down early on. Slowing down someones build is quite powerful. A ling rush to take out a couple of the other guys workers and you'll have the upper hand in the match.

Stork 01-19-2005 12:53 AM

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Choice my bw disk is [censored] up, but PM me sometime later this week and I will play you on regular SC.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 12:54 AM

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If you wanna play regular SC I can do that.

Reading this thread has got me fiending, I used to play the hell out of SC.

Stork 01-19-2005 01:22 AM

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Haha same here man. Then poker sorta shoved starcraft outta the spotlight...
Are you in a clan btw?

Stork 01-19-2005 01:23 AM

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Well, when it used to cost 150 and had a quicker build time, zerg rushes had some value. After the patch, they became almost obsolete. Any decent player shouldve been able to stop them, even if they had to resort to using worker units.

I guess you are too used to the 200 mineral pool to even notice anymore.

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If a ling rush defeats you, then you suck and need to uninstall SC. What I'm saying though a ling rush can criple your build early and if anything will slow you down early on. Slowing down someones build is quite powerful. A ling rush to take out a couple of the other guys workers and you'll have the upper hand in the match.

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I'd consider that being "defeated" by a ling rush.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 01:26 AM

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No I never was in a clan, I havent played the game in a long time.

The best player I played was the Slayer guy who won one of the first major KBK's when it was beginning to get big. I played him on Kali and he completely whupped me with Terran, he could do everything too fast for me to keep up with.

I usually played with clan x17. Not friends with them but played the better people in the room.

Ponks 01-19-2005 01:36 AM

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I played a lot in X17 too, usually some good players in there so you can find some competitive matches. It's all about the micro.

Ponks

DontRaisePlz 01-19-2005 01:42 AM

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Anyone play custom maps?

I loved Diplomacy.

Stork 01-19-2005 01:45 AM

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I schooled at Evolution. I was King fuggin Kong.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 01:47 AM

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The ironic thing is that micro makes the game boring, but to be good you must have perfect micro.

The game is fun to me just sitting backa nd building an army.

Dr. Strangelove 01-19-2005 03:17 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I never saw a professional player win using carriers.

A Starcraft game is over in under 15 mins.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's a pretty broad statement. I have, for the record, seen carriers used by expert players, and utilized well. Late game protoss, they are great to attack expansions with when you position them over the cliffs so that they are in the shadows and only the interceptors fly out and hit the workers. Also good for taking out island expos. Every unit has a use, to say that 'x unit sucks' is stupid.
Also, I have played tons of games that go 30-40 minutes.
And on the topic of zergling rushes, a pool used to cost 150 but that was cheap because a 6ling rush was unstoppable on all but the largest maps so they bumped the cost up to 200. And it's not impossible to zergling rush with the upgrade, but it isn't rediculously easy either.

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My friend and I used to play a huge amount of BW and specialized at Big game hunters/fastestmapever variations. To us, seeing a person try to make carriers was almost invariably a sign that they were weak and we didn't have to worry about them. Out of the last couple hundred 2v2 games we played we ran into maybe 5 people who used carriers very well. All of them lost to us because, as I said, carriers are terrible. The carrier person generally was too defense oriented and wasn't able to protect his partner well enough. We would take the partner out and then get to have some fun against maxed out carriers+arbiters+reavers (usual combination).

And yea, some units just aren't worth much. Like the terran vultures(?) and both types of archon.

ChoicestHops 01-19-2005 03:30 AM

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Vultures and Tanks (heavy metal) destroys protoss however.

Dr. Strangelove 01-19-2005 03:49 AM

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If I had to think of a unit that "destroys" protoss, it wouldn't be the vulture. In fact, I think protoss and zerg are very solid. I think terran kinda sucks (though heads up it rules). I've never bothered to get really good with it; I hate the micromanagement.


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