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private joker 12-13-2005 03:22 AM

do i have hidden outs on the turn?
 
SB is a typical 5/10 player; a bit too loose preflop, a bit weak post-flop. MP2 is 14/4/1.6

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

hobbsmann 12-13-2005 03:26 AM

Re: do i have hidden outs on the turn?
 
he has two pair enough for you to profitably call the turn IMO. Nice river fold.

private joker 12-13-2005 03:30 AM

Re: do i have hidden outs on the turn?
 
Thanks, that's just what I wanted to know -- I'm either folding the turn, or peeling and hoping to hit a 3, A, or maybe 8, and hope he has Q9. But I'm getting 14.5:1 on that, and wasn't sure if it's worth it for the times I do spike a 3, call the river, and still get shown JT.

hobbsmann 12-13-2005 03:43 AM

Re: do i have hidden outs on the turn?
 
thats the thing the times he has Q9, Q8, 87 you something like 9 outs so effectively you only need him to have two pair like 35% of the time. so the times you 'counterfeit him' on the river and he shows JT then, oh well nice hand.


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