Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

Bodhi I disagree with you on both counts.

True, looking for a precise technical definition of the term is ridiculous, but sometimes it's used incorrectly. When someone bitches about his kings getting beat by a set, crying "bad beat", he's wrong. He played his hand properly, he just got beat by the underdog. Crying "bad beat" shows he doesn't understand poker.

All in pre-flop, with KK, getting beat when a high pair makes a set: the best hand didn't hold up, that's all, nothing out of the ordinary.

On the other hand, holding KK, flop is x-x-x rainbow, going all in: No reason at all to anticipate opponent chasing a back door flush draw. Bad beat.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

A bad beat is anytime you lose a hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. To me the bad beat really amounts to a series of mistakes your opponent makes and then gets rewarded for it. As in, cold calling 3 bets with a 34o. Flop comes AJ5r, calling all bets on the flop, hitting a 6 on the turn, calling all again, hitting the 7 on the river and taking the pot away from the set of JJ's and AA's. It is not so much that it is a 'bad beat' as to what it does to my temperment if I am holding the Aces. It can send you on tilt very easily and that is what is truly a bad beat, anything that can set you on tilt, even for a little while. It is easy to tell yourself that the guy is a loser but it doesn't help matters when you are handing your 12BBs over to the moron. If you can get your zen past that, then there are no more bad beats.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

How about when I went all in with pocket aces, get one caller (big stack) who calls with 7,2 off suite and picks up a running two pair?

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

I agree I think there is a difference between being unlucky and having a bad beat.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

You can't blame somebody calling your all-in if they have pocket Q's and you have KK. You just got unlucky, not a bad beat just unluckiness.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

A bad beat occurs when the guy wearing the party poker hat and sunglasses beats you at the $1/$2 no limit table at the Borgata.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

Maybe you disagree with me because you've now specified NL whereas before you didn't specify.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

A bad beat is when something bad happens to you that wasn't supposed to happen. Bad beats aren't always because of the cards.

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

There are no bad beats. Do you see why?

Regards,

T

Re: What is a bad beat, really?
 

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KK vs QQ, a lot of preflop raising, and a Q flops, or hits on the turn or river. That's a bad beat.

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No its not.

Part of being a 'bad beat' has to do with the fact that the player who got lucky, made some terrible decision in the hand.

You cant fault someone for playing QQ preflop.