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But really.. fold flop. You have nothing to do in the pot.

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Folding the flop is a crime against humanity.

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Right now, I need to go to sleep.

But I will give the results when I wake up.

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It got 3-betted preflop, normally when people do that they have AA KK QQ JJ AK TT, flop comes KT7, you have 4 outs to a gutshot and thats more or less all you got. Even if you hit your gutshot you will lose sometimes to a full house. I think its an easy fold.

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Folding this flop is terrible getting 11.3:1.

Rob

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I don't care how passive he is, I'm still raising him. I think he's have folded 55 by now, and you probably would have heard from KT on the turn. He probably has KXh. If he 3-bets, call and cry, but I like a raise here.

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Now what do I do?

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Cry.

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Even if do not count overcard, 4 outs to a gutshot and backdoor flush draw make 10-1 flop call profitable due to implied odds.

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Adjusting odds like that, you can make any call profitable. Even with implied odds, it would be a marginal call. Include reverse implied odds and you are toast.

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You're very, very wrong. You're getting 11.33:1 here. You only need 10.5:1 with 0 IO on the GS. The GS is to the nuts here. Plus u have a bd nutter. You're getting enough to call simply from ur effective 5.5 outs (completely eliminating A/Q outs). You can't assume somebody already has a set and u have some RIO if he catches fills up. If anything u lose a very small portion of your outs. So, I'll grant that u could have as few as 5 outs which is still more than enough to call. Also, your IO are higher than normal when facing a 3-bet PF and completing a broadway straight.

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i could see folding if someone was left to act behind you but you're closing the action here. spike a jack on the turn and they only have one card left to fill up (10 outs, max), and you're raking it in.

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I'd call. Your good here often enough getting 8:1

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I'd cry and fold. Saving 2BBs is nice. Do it here, because you're not good 12% of the time. This is almost always a better hand than the nut flush. By somebody. TT, 55, KK, and KT are all possibilities, and your opponents would be playing badly to hold them, but I think you're pretty dead here.