Going for 1st
 

Anyone disagree?

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:18728636 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, December 30, 03:41:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 66887 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 6: PazzMan ( $3230 )
Seat 2: hustlinonU ( $970 )
Seat 1: badbadmonk ( $3800 )
Trny:18728636 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PazzMan [ Ac Qc ]
badbadmonk raises [400].
hustlinonU folds.
PazzMan is all-In.

Re: Going for 1st
 

Just wow...

You do know there is someone with 970 chips right?

Re: Going for 1st
 

Seems fine.

It might be more interesting if the short stack had just folded for his last 25 chips or something though.

Lori

Re: Going for 1st
 

I hope you weren't thinking of folding.

Yugoslav

Re: Going for 1st
 

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Just wow...

You do know there is someone with 970 chips right?

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Good thinking. You should probably fold everything but aces because someone has "just" 5 bbs and you're ITM.

Re: Going for 1st
 

Standard IMO.

Re: Going for 1st
 

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Just wow...

You do know there is someone with 970 chips right?

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Good thinking. You should probably fold everything but aces because someone has "just" 5 bbs and you're ITM.

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Eggsactly, easy fold.

THere is a shorty there, why risk with AQ?

Re: Going for 1st
 

Bones was being sarcastic. I do not know whether or not you are.

There's a 10% jump between 3rd and 2nd, and a 20% chance jump between 2nd and 1st. If you ICM'ed this, I bet it would be an easy shove, because you're 3-handed, so Button raises a lot, plus you have AQ, which is AA-like here.

Autoshove.

Re: Going for 1st
 

Easy push...

I hope graydot was being sarcastic too....

Re: Going for 1st
 

i probably either call or push here, depending on my read of the raiser

Re: Going for 1st
 

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Anyone disagree?


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It seems so, but they are wrong.

Re: Going for 1st
 

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i probably either call or push here, depending on my read of the raiser

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I've played against the raiser many times. He is one of the worst players on Party, a 90% VPIP'er that never folds. The OP would know this too so AQ is an easy push.

Re: Going for 1st
 

Allin, thank you.

Re: Going for 1st
 

I guess the most interesting part of this post is the part where the OP makes it seem like he's getting called for sure and taking a race/gamble for 3rd or 1st.

I'm pretty sure the guy will almost always fold. You're FE is QUITE high.

Re: Going for 1st
 

You should definitely move-in here. It's nothing like the KJo hand the other day because, well, AQs is like absolutely massive compared to KJo.

Re: Going for 1st
 

Oh by the way FE doesn't actually matter here, even if he folded the bottom 2/3rds he was raising with, you would still want his range to be no wider than top 21%, which is exactly the same as if he called every time you pushed! But that's more than wide enough ITM.

Re: Going for 1st
 

Here is the outcome. At least the read was right.

badbadmonk calls [2830].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 5h, 7s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
badbadmonk shows [ As, Tc ] a pair of tens.
PazzMan shows [ Ac, Qc ] high card ace.
badbadmonk wins 6560 chips from the main pot with a pair of tens.
PazzMan finished in third place and won $40.
PazzMan has left the table.

Re: Going for 1st
 

I'm embarassed to admit that I thought this was close. But then I did the math and...wow. It's not remotely close. In fact it looks like pushing as low as A8o is reasonable.