KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

Playing 25-50 NL. 5 handed. Game has been going along with 2 or 3 to the flop. Not many big pots. No one is consistently aggressive with their hands. Not much of a game background, but nothing seemed out of line. Assume a standard game.

You get dealt KK in the small blind. (stack sizes at start of hand)

UTG raises to $175 (~$1500 in his stack)
You raise to $800 (~$8000)
BB raises all in ~$6000
UTG folds

Your action???

BB hasn't done anything curious for a while. Only 2 slight eyebrow moments.

Early on, he raised $175 with K4s UTG and called a small stacks all in of $900. He ended up losing the hand. He hasn't really put his chips at risk much except for this early hand and one other hand just prior to this one.

He raised pre-flop $175 and got one caller. flop came J66r. He bet the pot, got re-raised the pot, and then went over the top. No call

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

Call him and expect to see JJ, QQ, or AKs. You most likely have the best hand here.

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

I think this is far closer at this level and against opponents who hasn't done anything remarkable for a long while. Also keep in mind that KK is only 65%-35% favourite over AKs, but a 19%-81% underdog against AA.

A player who puts up an above-maximum buyin stack of $6000 faced with an UTG raise and a small blind reraise with around $1000 in the pot with JJ would've been sussed out MUCH earlier.

This is at very very least AK or QQ (although I will agree AK is a fairly likely hand here).

An observant opponent with Aces could very well make this play, given that with him holding Aces, a solid small blind is probably more 50% likely to be holding precisely KK, and by playing Aces in a way "Aces never would have", he might get EXCACTLY the play he wants (all, big, money going in preflop).

In a normal $25/50nl I think you are prone to be up against several observant opponents.

lars

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

I think the biggest question here is, how often have you been reraising, and what range of hands is the BB likely to put you on?

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

I hadn't re-raised anything pre-flop the entire time he was at the table.

maybe 6 times I led preflop with 175 or more, Called 175 about 6 times preflop in 60 or so hands.

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

Hey Media,

Out of curiosity, was this on UB? If it was, I have a guess as to the opponent...

ML4L

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

Yes, it was on UB.

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kid55?

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

No, it was someone who I'd never seen play the table before. I won't post his name in case he becomes a regular at the table which I doubt.

Re: KK from the small blind vs all in from big blind??
 

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No, it was someone who I'd never seen play the table before. I won't post his name in case he becomes a regular at the table which I doubt.

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It was worth a shot... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I have completely abandoned the "get all the money in preflop with KK no matter what and hope for the best" strategy, but I don't see any way to fold here. It doesn't seem like the guy plays very well. And, I really don't like laying down KK preflop in the absence of a meaningful read. I call; I think you will see QQ/AK here often enough to make it correct.

Hope it worked out.

ML4L