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AdamL 10-13-2005 11:31 PM

Am I way out of line here?
 
I do this kind of thing all the time on double paired boards when I hold an ace.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

gopnik 10-13-2005 11:35 PM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
any reads on BB? I really think it's read dependent.

AdamL 10-14-2005 01:16 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
Well, I'm not so much asking about this specific hand as the idea of calling down with A-high on a double-paired board.

So let's rephrase it like this: Against what type of opponent do you fold this to? Against what range of opponents do you call?

How significant is the decision either way?

Watain 10-14-2005 01:42 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
Preflop and flop seems pretty standard to me.

A question I would ask myself in the heat of the action when facing the turn raise would be:

"If he would bluff more often than 20% here, i would call him down. If not, fold".

Assumptions: you call the turn raise, he bets the river you bet.

So against a bluff-happy lad i would go for it, against a passive i would fold.


10-14-2005 05:24 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
*grunch*

I think you played it just right. I'm not great on WA/WB strategy but when the 7 falls on the turn he either has the boat (which I doubt cuz he didn't reraise the flop) or two-pair w/ lower kicker. The J on the river could give him the higher two pair but I think the call is still the right move.

10-14-2005 05:47 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
nm, just re-read the post.

POKhER 10-14-2005 07:02 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
Im weak tight then, Cause i ditch this once i get raised.
He's BB... if i give anyone credit its him.

I disagree about this being WA/WB, what are we way ahead of that raises?

we're only ahead of Overcards.

@bsolute_luck 10-14-2005 07:16 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Im weak tight then, Cause i ditch this once i get raised.
He's BB... if i give anyone credit its him.

I disagree about this being WA/WB, what are we way ahead of that raises?

we're only ahead of Overcards.

[/ QUOTE ]

you're assuming he raising with a made hand.

POKhER 10-14-2005 07:26 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
yeah and i just realised its 6max and 1/2 so maybe hes buffing like hell.
Gee i suck at headsup, I need tutoring!

10-14-2005 07:47 AM

Re: Am I way out of line here?
 
I might check on the turn and just call down.


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