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12-19-2005 01:35 PM

Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
I have a hard time playing 99/TT. When they don't improve and I have a lot of opponents and high cards on the flop it's an easy fold. I have however a harder time to play them when the flop is 'good', but when there are also a lot of opponents, since i figure they have together a lot of outs against me and they are not going to fold a lot of hands on a flop like this (for a single bet). If someone bets in front of me I would raise.

Example 1:

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

Example 2:

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (14.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Should I have bet/raised pre flop?
Should I have bet the flop?
Should I have bet the river in example 2?

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) 12-19-2005 01:40 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
Hey,

Raise preflop. Bet the flop.

This post should go in the Micro-Limit forum.

Peace,
Gravy

jason_t 12-19-2005 01:42 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
Hand 1: Raise preflop. Bet the flop.
Hand 2: 3-bet preflop. Bet the flop.

12-19-2005 01:46 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
Grunch

Hand 1:
Raise Pre-flop.
Bet Flop.
Turn is good.
River I'm surprised you are not check-raised with a straight or flush but like the bet.

Hand 2
Raise pre-flop.
Bet/raise the flop.
Turn was good.
River, probably should bet but I'm likely to do the same thing because my aggro is so low...

jaxUp 12-19-2005 02:06 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: Raise preflop. Bet the flop.
Hand 2: 3-bet preflop. Bet the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

yah

12-19-2005 02:48 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
bet those suckers, flop, turn &amp; river. You can't let overcards hang around.

12-19-2005 03:19 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
Hand 1- raise preflop
Hand 2-raise preflop

Greg J 12-19-2005 03:30 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
Preflop:

I usually prefer to raise 99 preflop, but limping is not always bad. Generally I would get used to raising this one preflop.

TT is a 3 betting hand I think, especially here when you can buy the button.

You should bet the flop on both hands. That changes the dynamic of both on later streets. Good raise on the turn in hand 2.

12-19-2005 03:48 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
What would you do with a lower pocket pair with no overcards on the flop? Say you have 77 and the flop is 2 4 6 rainbow?

12-19-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Playing 99/TT to passive?
 
Grunch:

I like to mix up 99 by raising some, but not always in EP. Limping can be OK here, but you need to find out where you are quickly - Bet the flop. Rest of hand 1 looks good to me.

Hand 2 - TT is a LP 3 bet pf. Once again, BET THE FLOP. I also bet the riv here.


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