Easier for a noob to learn...NL cash or SNG\'s???
 

I need help figuring out what direction to go in with a friend who wants to learn how to play poker. I offered him a few books, showed him 2+2, etc. He insists that he learn directly from me. He has a little ADD in him, I think, hehe. He wants to play to make some extra money and is more interested in nut-peddling a bajillion NL tables or maybe pushbotting sit-n-gos than improving his game right now.

What he wants for now is a basic system to get him off the ground. He says he won't get bored with robotic play as long as he's seeing results. I'm equally comfortable with teaching NL or SNG's.

Which one do you think would be easier for a poker noob to learn, set farming/nut-peddling NL25 full ring or pushbotting $11 SNG's? Which one do think they could make the most $$$/hour playing?

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SNGs are easier.

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SNG will give a person the greatest amount of practice in NL holdem simply because he can just keep playing for $5 a game. He will have to change his play when he tries NL cash, but if he plays 20-30 SNGs before any cash games, he will certainly have a good grasp on the game.

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Teach him Ed's short stack strategy for NL cash games. Can't be a simpler poker strategy out there that actually produces reliable replicable results.

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I played play money sng's til i won nearly everytime, then moved on to $10 sng's built up a $1000 bankroll off them and then moved on to limit and nl live.

In short. SNGs.

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until a short while ago i would have said sngs seeing as thats how i built my roll and pretty much all i played for the past couple years. however looking back, with bonuses, i would say nl cash would add up faster and really shouldnt be all that much more difficult from what i hear about 25nl. i agree with the other guy that said that short stack strategy is pretty hard to mess up. thats like the best of both worlds, pushbotting the cash games.

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I've played both and cash games are more profitable....also with sit and goes eventually it will be shorthanded and he will actually have to ....gasp...play poker. also you can bonus whore low limit games. MTTs are more profitable than Sngs too and give more time to play robotic poker.

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If he wants to build a bankroll, $0.50/1 and bonuses.

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If he wants to build a bankroll, $0.50/1 and bonuses.

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wuestion was which one is EASier for a noob to learn.. therefore answer is by far... sngs.

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Teach him Ed's short stack strategy for NL cash games. Can't be a simpler poker strategy out there that actually produces reliable replicable results.

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Where can one find Ed's short stack strategy?

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Re: Easier for a noob to learn...NL cash or SNG\'s???
 

Getting Start in Hold'Em. Or just search the Books/Publications forum, I know it was discussed a lot when the book first came out.

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It doesn't look like your friend is in the best mindset going into this and he might be in for some unpleasant surprises.

Oh, and I don't think that it really matters which one he does. I think that learning both at the lower stakes is around the same difficulty.

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In terms of making a small amount of money fast, Ed's short-stack NL cash strategy is probably best. If he wants to learn to play poker, there's no better training ground than SnGs.

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I've played both and cash games are more profitable....also with sit and goes eventually it will be shorthanded and he will actually have to ....gasp...play poker.

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This is the point in a SNG when the last thing you should be doing is much post flop play. Assuming that short handed = big blinds a player using correct strategy will mostly be pushing or folding.

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I've played both and cash games are more profitable...

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I guess you didn't 10+ table.

Re: Easier for a noob to learn...NL cash or SNG\'s???
 

Get him to play party 10+1 and follow this link :

STT HEAVEN

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It's rather depressing that he just wants to pushbot and not actually learn to play.

If he wanted to learn to play then I'd suggest cheap 1 on 1 SnG's for a total newbie - incredibly low risk of ruin and fantastic experience in reading people. Also very useful for when you get HU in 9-10 player SNG's (which can make a big difference to your ROI).

For building a bankroll mindlessly then both short stack low stake NL and pushbot SNG's will do the job - why doesn't he try both and see which he likes best?

The when he's built up a nice roll he can move up, take a shot and lose it to me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]