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12-09-2005 08:48 AM

A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
hi 2+2'ers

I have been attempting to make software that automatically checks/folds after a delay for some months now. The point of the software is to allow people to take a toilet break in the knowledge that every hand they get dealt will be played as slowly as possible.

By using the software, you can save 3.3 minutes for every 10 hands dealt.

The question is, would anyone be interested in using my software.

BTW - it does not have any spyware/ key loggers in it (I will get a 2+2er to check before posting the software.

Thank you

Toi1et

BigBluffer 12-09-2005 09:01 AM

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No need for your bot now that my wife has promised to get me a gold-plated pee bucket for Christmas. I'll just set the pee bucket next to my desk and not have to get up for 15 straight hours.

Nice idea though.

stigmata 12-09-2005 09:12 AM

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Nice idea, but I think people would be worried that it might alert some party bot-detection methods. I think that software that grabs hold of the mouse may get red-flagged.

12-09-2005 09:17 AM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
I play not party, but prima. If one plays party, not prima, then ul [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I guess the script has limitations... but it is surely legal

usmfan 12-09-2005 10:59 AM

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I play not party, but prima. If one plays party, not prima, then ul [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I guess the script has limitations... but it is surely illegal

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FYP

Zetack 12-09-2005 11:19 AM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
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hi 2+2'ers

I have been attempting to make software that automatically checks/folds after a delay for some months now. The point of the software is to allow people to take a toilet break in the knowledge that every hand they get dealt will be played as slowly as possible.

By using the software, you can save 3.3 minutes for every 10 hands dealt.

The question is, would anyone be interested in using my software.

BTW - it does not have any spyware/ key loggers in it (I will get a 2+2er to check before posting the software.

Thank you

Toi1et

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I wouldn't be interested in it because I have no desire to be a big jerk. Could you write me a program that would autosend a really rude reply to any email I get too?

There are nine other players at the table, show a little consideration.

If you really don't want to miss any hands, sit out before you hit the blinds, then wait till you hit the blinds to jump back in. No problem.

Nicok7 12-09-2005 11:44 AM

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hi 2+2'ers

I have been attempting to make software that automatically checks/folds after a delay for some months now. The point of the software is to allow people to take a toilet break in the knowledge that every hand they get dealt will be played as slowly as possible.

By using the software, you can save 3.3 minutes for every 10 hands dealt.

The question is, would anyone be interested in using my software.

BTW - it does not have any spyware/ key loggers in it (I will get a 2+2er to check before posting the software.

Thank you

Toi1et

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I wouldn't be interested in it because I have no desire to be a big jerk. Could you write me a program that would autosend a really rude reply to any email I get too?

There are nine other players at the table, show a little consideration.

If you really don't want to miss any hands, sit out before you hit the blinds, then wait till you hit the blinds to jump back in. No problem.

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primetime32 12-09-2005 11:48 AM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
wouldn't it be easier to get a laptop and a wireless connection so you can play while you are on the toilet??

tripdad 12-09-2005 11:52 AM

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wouldn't it be easier to get a laptop and a wireless connection so you can play while you are on the toilet??

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this is what i have. in fact, i'm dropping a duece as i type this post.

tripdad

12-09-2005 12:27 PM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
Judging by your stupid idea for a program and your name, it sounds like you have some kind of bathroom fetish. Maybe a different forum would be more appropriate for you.

12-09-2005 12:27 PM

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wouldn't it be easier to get a laptop and a wireless connection so you can play while you are on the toilet??

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this is what i have. in fact, i'm dropping a duece as i type this post.

tripdad

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I've often heard people claim to do this, but isn't it a little awkward to wipe? I need to know before I try it.

12-09-2005 12:49 PM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
not if your setup is like this.....
https://my.estoresnw.com/kap/Product...computer-C.jpg

I guess if you get a bad inbound fax you can use it to wipe [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

tylerdurden 12-09-2005 12:58 PM

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I've often heard people claim to do this, but isn't it a little awkward to wipe? I need to know before I try it.

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Get a TV tray to set your laptop on.

soko 12-09-2005 12:58 PM

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I would hate you forever, you realize the blinds are usually timed in a MTT, don't be a DICK

BradleyT 12-09-2005 01:59 PM

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I would hate you forever, you realize the blinds are usually timed in a MTT, don't be a DICK

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Maybe you have the wrong idea. He's talking about a program that will wait 28 seconds and then fold your hand while you're in the bathroom. This way you miss the least number of hands possible and don't have to worry about sitting back in. Haven't you ever come back from the BR to see Aces on the screen and the "sit out" button pre-checked and you can't make it in time?

I think its a fantastic idea. I'll often be 10 tabling SnGs when the urge comes up. I usually just let it time out for me - well I try to beat the clock but sometimes life doesn't cooperate.

BigBluffer 12-09-2005 03:24 PM

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not if your setup is like this.....
https://my.estoresnw.com/kap/Product...computer-C.jpg

I guess if you get a bad inbound fax you can use it to wipe [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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nh sir

scott8 12-09-2005 03:50 PM

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wouldn't it be easier to get a laptop and a wireless connection so you can play while you are on the toilet??

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this is what i have. in fact, i'm dropping a duece as i type this post.

tripdad

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I've often heard people claim to do this, but isn't it a little awkward to wipe? I need to know before I try it.

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Use toilet paper, flush, wash hands, pick up lap top.

12-09-2005 04:14 PM

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They have something for that, it's actually not software, but hardware. I believe it's called a laptop.

Jeremy517 12-09-2005 04:40 PM

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I would hate you forever, you realize the blinds are usually timed in a MTT, don't be a DICK

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Maybe you have the wrong idea. He's talking about a program that will wait 28 seconds and then fold your hand while you're in the bathroom. This way you miss the least number of hands possible and don't have to worry about sitting back in. Haven't you ever come back from the BR to see Aces on the screen and the "sit out" button pre-checked and you can't make it in time?

I think its a fantastic idea. I'll often be 10 tabling SnGs when the urge comes up. I usually just let it time out for me - well I try to beat the clock but sometimes life doesn't cooperate.

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I think you missed his point. He was saying that it isn't fair to everyone else at the table who isn't using the bathroom.

12-09-2005 04:50 PM

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I would hate you forever, you realize the blinds are usually timed in a MTT, don't be a DICK

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Maybe you have the wrong idea. He's talking about a program that will wait 28 seconds and then fold your hand while you're in the bathroom. This way you miss the least number of hands possible and don't have to worry about sitting back in. Haven't you ever come back from the BR to see Aces on the screen and the "sit out" button pre-checked and you can't make it in time?

I think its a fantastic idea. I'll often be 10 tabling SnGs when the urge comes up. I usually just let it time out for me - well I try to beat the clock but sometimes life doesn't cooperate.

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I think you missed his point. He was saying that it isn't fair to everyone else at the table who isn't using the bathroom.

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Life is not fair. It's the internet, it will happen, look out for the man. The program sounds interesting but I would still rather blind out then have to fold hands.

Jeremy517 12-09-2005 04:52 PM

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I would hate you forever, you realize the blinds are usually timed in a MTT, don't be a DICK

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Maybe you have the wrong idea. He's talking about a program that will wait 28 seconds and then fold your hand while you're in the bathroom. This way you miss the least number of hands possible and don't have to worry about sitting back in. Haven't you ever come back from the BR to see Aces on the screen and the "sit out" button pre-checked and you can't make it in time?

I think its a fantastic idea. I'll often be 10 tabling SnGs when the urge comes up. I usually just let it time out for me - well I try to beat the clock but sometimes life doesn't cooperate.

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I think you missed his point. He was saying that it isn't fair to everyone else at the table who isn't using the bathroom.

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Life is not fair. It's the internet, it will happen, look out for the man. The program sounds interesting but I would still rather blind out then have to fold hands.

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So I assume you never complain about stallers, because life isn't fair?

Life may not be fair, but that doesn't mean that you have to hurt nine other people so that you can go to the bathroom.

12-09-2005 04:57 PM

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Life may not be fair, but that doesn't mean that you have to hurt nine other people so that you can go to the bathroom.

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I fail to understand how professional gamblers can be so moral. It is every man for himself is it not.

This utility would be similar to the "disconnect all in" privilege (kinda).

I am currently tinkering with the coding, to ensure that it is not detectable and easily customised for your requirements.

Toi1et

MelchyBeau 12-09-2005 05:38 PM

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I fail to understand how professional gamblers can be so moral. It is every man for himself is it not.


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Then you should accept collusion then right? Well if thats ok, how about bots? Cool.

How about a trojan that sends your hand to my computer? Great.

Why don't you just let me run a program that will crack your passwords to your poker account and neteller? Thanks

Ok in all honestly, people who slowplay constantly take the gamble out of alot of people. Many times they will leave the table. Just cause you didn't want to miss any hands.

Professional gamblers do have some responsibility. They should do thier best to make sure the game runs quickly and honestly.

Melch

12-09-2005 05:46 PM

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Life may not be fair, but that doesn't mean that you have to hurt nine other people so that you can go to the bathroom.

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I fail to understand how professional gamblers can be so moral. It is every man for himself is it not.

Toi1et

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You misunderstand the difference between a professional gambler and a cheat. Among professional gamblers, it's "every one for themselves within the rules of the game." Among cheats, it's "every one for themselves, rules be damned."

The rules are that while you're away from the game, you get dealt out and get blinded down. Using software to get around that is using software to cheat.

Honestly, it's no great loss to sit out. In fact, if your stack is above average, it's hardly a loss at all to sit out and let the idiots bust each other out. Odds are you won't get deal one of the big money hands, and you might as well dodge the variance while you pee.

Your program, if used by even a moderate number of people, will suck the big one for us all. It will make MANY games go very slowly because there's often one person or another sitting out. It's a cheat that really sucks for the community.

I say don't do it.

Newt_Buggs 12-09-2005 06:25 PM

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This would be very useful for SNG players. I'de be interested.

Adde 12-09-2005 10:51 PM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
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I wouldn't be interested in it because I have no desire to be a big jerk. Could you write me a program that would autosend a really rude reply to any email I get too?

There are nine other players at the table, show a little consideration.

If you really don't want to miss any hands, sit out before you hit the blinds, then wait till you hit the blinds to jump back in. No problem.

[/ QUOTE ]

MTBlue 12-09-2005 11:08 PM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
Explain the advantage. It's not about morality its about edge. Clear concise terms on why this thing makes me money.

12-10-2005 04:21 AM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
It won't make money, it is a thoroughly dumb idea. When you use this program the fish who are there for action will leave. The other multi-tablers at the table won't even notice you doing it. Result will be a table with a poorer EV. With any luck the result will be a table of nothing but people who use this stupid idea and don't notice that everyone else at the table is their own kind.

Just hit deal-me-out when you're stepping away. The players who are there for fun will appreciate it. When they're happier at the table the professional makes more money. A useful part of making money at poker is keeping it pleasant for the non-pros.

12-10-2005 06:39 AM

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It is obviously not intended for use in a cash game.

In a multi table tourny you will notice that A LOT of people do this waiting game, by hand.

In fact it could save more than 4.5 minutes per round (28secs delay).

In tournies where the BB is 10% of your stack (either the late stages of a multi, or the mid stages of a SnG), you will save 15% of your chips be using this software.

I think you guys need to relax. Lets say I did make the software, the chance of one of the 2,400,000,000.00 poker players out there using it against you is slim.

Tk79 12-10-2005 07:41 AM

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A useful part of making money at poker is keeping it pleasant for the non-pros.


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good post dragon.

SammyKid11 12-10-2005 08:04 AM

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No need for your bot now that my wife has promised to get me a gold-plated pee bucket for Christmas.

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This is the gem this thread seems to have missed.

jb9 12-10-2005 11:26 AM

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It is obviously not intended for use in a cash game.

In a multi table tourny you will notice that A LOT of people do this waiting game, by hand.

In fact it could save more than 4.5 minutes per round (28secs delay).

In tournies where the BB is 10% of your stack (either the late stages of a multi, or the mid stages of a SnG), you will save 15% of your chips be using this software.

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Oh good. Software that makes it easier for weasels to slow down play in an MTT because they are desperately trying to fold into the money.

Meanwhile, anyone who is actually try to win in the tournament is disadvantaged as they play fewer hands than players on other tables and have less opporunity to acquire chips.

Honestly, I'd prefer to see a software program that gives people an electric shock for intentionally slowing down tournament play. If the shock got increasing severe for each hand they did it, that would be good. If the shock would be applied to increasingly sensitive parts of their bodies, that would rock.

I also have many other practical ideas for using this "shock the weasel" software, so please let me know if development is successful.

haakee 12-10-2005 03:49 PM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
If you use a laptop you can play during toilet breaks.

12-10-2005 08:37 PM

Re: A Bot That Slow Plays Every Hand
 
What about a bot that fast plays every hand? That would be useful for other players so I can increase my winrate!!


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