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Leavenfish 08-10-2005 06:45 PM

Simple probability problem
 
On page 126, first paragraph of Harrington On Hold'em Vol1:

1. Higher pair versus lower pair. The higher pair is about 82% to win, or about a 4.5:1 favorite.

This is probably just my non-math brain kicking in and I've never commited any of this to memory since I've not been a no-limit player. But...can this be right? 100/4.5 =22.2 that's 77.8%. Yes?

---Leavenfish

AaronBrown 08-10-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Simple probability problem
 
Your math is fine, but 4.5:1 means the higher pair wins 4.5 times and loses 1 time out of 5.5. 4.5/5.5 = 81.8%.

BruceZ 08-10-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Simple probability problem
 
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On page 126, first paragraph of Harrington On Hold'em Vol1:

1. Higher pair versus lower pair. The higher pair is about 82% to win, or about a 4.5:1 favorite.

This is probably just my non-math brain kicking in and I've never commited any of this to memory since I've not been a no-limit player. But...can this be right? 100/4.5 =22.2 that's 77.8%. Yes?

---Leavenfish

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No.

100/5.5 = 18.2 -> ~82%.

4.5:1 favorite = 4.5/5.5 =~ 82%.

4.5:1 underdog = 1/5.5 =~ 18%.

Leavenfish 08-10-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Simple probability problem
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
On page 126, first paragraph of Harrington On Hold'em Vol1:

1. Higher pair versus lower pair. The higher pair is about 82% to win, or about a 4.5:1 favorite.

This is probably just my non-math brain kicking in and I've never commited any of this to memory since I've not been a no-limit player. But...can this be right? 100/4.5 =22.2 that's 77.8%. Yes?

---Leavenfish

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No.

100/5.5 = 18.2 -> ~82%.

4.5:1 favorite = 4.5/5.5 =~ 82%.

4.5:1 underdog = 1/5.5 =~ 18%.

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So, I guess I was calculating this all wrong. Ex: KK vs JT is 5:1 and that is not 80%?

BruceZ 08-10-2005 08:52 PM

Re: Simple probability problem
 
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So, I guess I was calculating this all wrong. Ex: KK vs JT is 5:1 and that is not 80%?

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5:1 means you win 5 and lose 1, so you win 5 out of 6, and 5/6 =~ 83.3%.

Leavenfish 08-10-2005 11:28 PM

Re: Simple probability problem
 
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So, I guess I was calculating this all wrong. Ex: KK vs JT is 5:1 and that is not 80%?

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5:1 means you win 5 and lose 1, so you win 5 out of 6, and 5/6 =~ 83.3%.

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I think I get it: A pair vs 1 higher and 1 lower card is a 2.5:1 favorite. Therefore the pair wins 2.5 out of 3.5 times = 71.4% Thanks BurceZ!

---Leavenfish


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