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J_V 12-23-2005 05:05 PM

100-200 Lifeline
 
You pump 10-10 in MP1. You haven't lost a pot yet and feel like a million bucks. The guy directly to you left 3-bets quickly. The guy behind him instantly 4-bets, obviously using the raise any button.

You are annoyed because you hate the raise any button and call.


You quickly IM a regular in the game and ask him about the 4 bettor, "Is XXXXXX, good or bad?" He responds with "def not bad."

The flop comes 9-7-5. Two clubs. You are clubless. You think about leading but check. 3 better checks, Capper insta bets. You call as does the yokal behind you.

Turn 5 and you check fold.

Any good?

NLfool 12-23-2005 05:08 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
y no CR if the IMer told you the capper has loose capping standards. I'd definitely like to get rid of someone with some overs

jogumon 12-23-2005 05:25 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
It seems like you put him on an overpair. If that's the case, why call the flop. Best case scenario, you get to see the turn for one bet, spike your T, get to check raise, and maybe get enough money to justify the call, barely.

There's still the chance the yokel behind you is waiting to check raise. If you really believe the capper has an overpair, and are planning to fold the turn unimproved, fold the flop.

J_V 12-23-2005 06:20 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
Well it's not 100% he has an overpair. If he has an overpair and I call a flop bet it's not a big mistake. Coupled with the fact that the turn could get checked around, I think calling the flop is right.

J_V 12-23-2005 06:21 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
The IMer told me that his capping standards were probably not loose.

stoxtrader 12-23-2005 06:29 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
c/r to fold overs can be an expensive way to find out you are against an overpair.

This is basically player dependant and of course not a clear spot, otherswise JV wouldnt post it.

Depending on the range you can put the other two on, it becomse a math question.

I'm fine with your line, A pre-flop fold is also ok, flame away on that.

worm33 12-23-2005 07:01 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
I'm fine with your line, A pre-flop fold is also ok, flame away on that.

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Hasnt the math been done on this many times? Getting like 5.1/1 to flop a set alone?

SA125 12-23-2005 07:22 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
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You quickly IM a regular in the game and ask him about the 4 bettor, "Is XXXXXX, good or bad?" He responds with "def not bad."

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One player to a hand is an accepted and respected part of poker, except when online. One of the things B&M has over online. I'm sure that stuff is done all the time and it's cheezy, to say the least.

roy_miami 12-23-2005 07:24 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
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You quickly IM a regular in the game and ask him about the 4 bettor, "Is XXXXXX, good or bad?" He responds with "def not bad."


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Anybody have any moral issues with using IM with your buddies at the tables?

J_V 12-23-2005 07:41 PM

Re: 100-200 Lifeline
 
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Anybody have any moral issues with using IM with your buddies at the tables?

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Say what? I'm not gonna defend myself, I'll just say that having moral issues with this is absurd.


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