Big pot with 88
 

Button is LP. MP is super LP.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, Button folds.

River: (10 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Re: Big pot with 88
 

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Can you elaborate a bit?

Re: Big pot with 88
 

Sorry, volcano'd. It's just a matter of numbers... 4 opponents, JQx 2-tone board. If you are not beat, one person has many outs against you. You said they are also loose. The cold call should also worry you. If I don't fold the flop, I c/f the turn.

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I don't like your river bet. A worse hand isnt calling and a better hand isn't folding. He called 2 cold on the flop and just called the turn, I check and let him bluff his missed draw.

Re: Big pot with 88
 

I don't like the riverbet.
I'd check/fold unless you have some kind of read that this LP will bluff his missed draw sometimes.

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Sorry, volcano'd. It's just a matter of numbers... 4 opponents, JQx 2-tone board. If you are not beat, one person has many outs against you. You said they are also loose. The cold call should also worry you. If I don't fold the flop, I c/f the turn.

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Button could be stabbing here. I am ahead of him a bunch. The cold call doesn't mean all that much to scare me either. He raised preflop, but didn't bet the flop? Then calls 2? I put him on AK, AT, or some flush draw. I guess I am beat here a bunch, but the pot is pretty big.

If you don't like this play... how big does the pot have to be before you do like it?

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I don't like your river bet. A worse hand isnt calling and a better hand isn't folding. He called 2 cold on the flop and just called the turn, I check and let him bluff his missed draw.

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I agree that the river bet is a bit iffy. I was thinking he may make a crying call with AK or AT though. He had excellent calling skills. Inducing might be an idea, but he is so passive that I don't even think he knows what the word bluff means. If this guy was any more agro, I definetly woulda check/called the river.

Re: Big pot with 88
 

fold flop, check river

Re: Big pot with 88
 

I didn't think you posted reads. If he is super passive the only hand he's raising preflop that you beat is AK, would he raise AT if he is super passive, most wont.

I think he prolly has either AK or TT. Would he call 2 cold on the flop with just 2 overcards? I think TT is more likely in this case so I still just check the river.