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Il_Mostro 08-16-2004 11:07 AM

President Signs Defense Bill
 
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0040805-3.html

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Third, this bill meets our commitment to America's Armed Forces by preparing them to meet the threats of tomorrow. Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. We must never stop thinking about how best to defend our country when we all must always be forward-thinking.

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Maybe you people should think about getting a new administration...

Il_Mostro 08-16-2004 11:26 AM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
Ok, ok, I see it's been discussed before, ah well, that's what I get for not being around for a couple of weeks... still is a good quote, though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

vulturesrow 08-16-2004 11:40 AM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
At least our administration doesnt take half of our income in taxes.

Il_Mostro 08-16-2004 11:46 AM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
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At least our administration doesnt take half of our income in taxes.

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Who's talking half? I'd be happy to pay that little in taxes... And, pure speculation, the total tax-pressure in the US might not be that far from 50%, around here I belive it's something like 70% or more, if my memory serves me, including income-tax, VAT, various taxes on specific goods and so on, so forth

vulturesrow 08-16-2004 11:58 AM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
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Who's talking half? I'd be happy to pay that little in taxes... And, pure speculation, the total tax-pressure in the US might not be that far from 50%, around here I belive it's something like 70% or more, if my memory serves me, including income-tax, VAT, various taxes on specific goods and so on, so forth

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It was a quick conservative guess based on some stats I dug up online. Id be suprised if the US was approaching 50%. Anyhow, my point still stands. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I just felt obligated to defend my president. Not trying to be rude.

MMMMMM 08-16-2004 12:40 PM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
You realize of course that if the government takes half of your income in taxes, you are working 6 months out of each year just to pay the government.

No way in hell should any country cost that much to run, not even this country.

ACPlayer 08-16-2004 01:49 PM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
At least our administration doesnt take half of our income in taxes

Actually our tax burden is higher than half.

Lets see: Fed tax rate: 39, NY State and city: 12 Sales Tax: 8 property taxes: variable but large.

Note that our "tax cuts" of the past four years have actually caused an increase in our total taxes. Most state taxes and fees for services have increased. Only the myopic think that our taxes have gone down in the past four years.

Yet, our schools suck, large parts of the population has no health care, most Americans get little vacation time. Right now we are doing very little well, except spending money in Afghanistan to reduce the cost of Opium on our streets and in Iraq to increase the number of people willing to die in the name if Islam.

nicky g 08-16-2004 01:53 PM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
In return for that they ge the best social services and one of the highest standards of living in the world.

riverflush 08-16-2004 02:01 PM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
Ahh, those great social services again....I'm so jealous.

In Sweden you pay income tax and a VAT tax? Holy crap...

I respect you guys from EU and your opinions but I don't think you truly understand how much most Americans loathe taxes. That's why we started up this here country (bad grammar on purpose).

vulturesrow 08-16-2004 02:10 PM

Re: President Signs Defense Bill
 
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In return for that they ge the best social services

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I think this is a debatable point since I have heard not so great reviews of the social services in other countries with similar economies. I'll do better research and see what I think.

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and one of the highest standards of living in the world

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And no money left to enjoy it with.


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