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Tony.T 12-25-2005 02:12 PM

Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
Villian is a fish, like or not like?



Lindagirl (Hero) (EUR 85,30 in seat 1)
Sokrates (EUR 70,25 in seat 2)
ZeNNa (EUR 99,31 in seat 3)
wehrner (EUR 187,27 in seat 4)
BENGTSON10 (EUR 141,68 in seat 5)
sture* (EUR 149,00 in seat 6)

Dealer: BENGTSON10
Small Blind: sture* (1,00)
Big Blind: Lindagirl (2,00)

Lindagirl was dealt: 7s - 5c

Sokrates Fold
ZeNNa Fold
wehrner Fold
BENGTSON10 Call (2,00)
sture* Call (1,00)
Lindagirl Check

Flop 6c - Th - 4h

sture* Bet (3,00)
Linda69 Call (3,00)
BENGTSON10 Fold

Turn 6c - Th - 4h - As


sture* Bet (6,50)
Lindagirl Raise (18,00)
sture* Call (11,50)

River 6c - Th - 4h - As - 3d

sture* Check
Linda69 All-In (62,30)

12-25-2005 02:20 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
Other than the river push I like it. I'd rather value bet the river.

12-25-2005 02:23 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
I don't know what I was looking at, but there is my standard answer for this type of move. That response is, there is no reason to bluff the fish. Fish don't fold, that is why they are fish in the first place. For example, if the villain in this hand has a flush draw and is a fish, he is simple not going to fold, he wants to see if he can hit.

On the other hand, if you know your opponent to be weak or "thinking" a case can be made for pushing them off what seem to be susceptible made hands when a scare card hits.

Tony.T 12-25-2005 02:24 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
I donīt think he pushes 2 pair on the turn and will never fold it to a push, that is why I moved in

12-25-2005 02:29 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
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I donīt think he pushes 2 pair on the turn and will never fold it to a push, that is why I moved in

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Sorry tony, I misread the hand ( i am going to delete my post now, although what i said is still true IMO. Like dustbuster said, just value bet that fishy.

Oh yeah, use a converter please.

Nope read it again, I read it right the first time. OOPS, tired.

Tony.T 12-25-2005 02:49 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
You are both saying fishes dont fold and this one called my turn raise when the A came. I think you are missing alot of value if you dont overbet in spots like this


What is a converter?

12-25-2005 02:54 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
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You are both saying fishes dont fold and this one called my turn raise when the A came. I think you are missing alot of value if you dont overbet in spots like this


What is a converter?

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Okay they don't fold, but most of them can fold marginal hands to huge overbets on the river.

I am sure with an infinitesimal amount of effort you can figure out what a coverter is, you do have 200 posts.

BTW, the turn is my concern, not the river.

Tony.T 12-25-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
Im not really english speaking and whats with the attitude?
"Then dont fold" Why would I do that, I got the nuts?

I also think they can fold a marginal hand, but a strong A or two pair is not marginal to a fish IMO

12-25-2005 03:00 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
everything looks good but the reraises. I personally would of folded on the turn.

Mercman572 12-25-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Scarecard semibluff, what U guys think?
 
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Villian is a fish, like or not like?

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I stopped reading here, semi-bluffing fish is generally not a good idea.


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