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morberg 06-22-2005 07:11 AM

TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Is it too aggressive to raise with TT in SB here? I won't force anybody out, but I figure that I might very well have the best hand.

Flop: (13 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

My TT is an overpair so I bet out. BB raises, which could mean he's trying for a free card (unlikely with two people after him), he's trying to protect a weak hand (unlikely since he raised PF) or that he has a good hand (my guess). Flushdraw on board, but at least I have a diamond (does that matter?).

Turn: (10.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

I slow down, not so much because of the potential flush as to BB's aggression. If BB has a higher PP he may or may not have a diamond in which case I might river a flush. There's still the possibility that I am ahead.

River: (13.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP3 checks.

I check, but plan to call a bet on the river.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

crunchy1 06-22-2005 09:00 AM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
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My TT is an overpair so I bet out.

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Leading is good. Another reason to be leading into the PF 3-bettor is that you hope he'll raise again and force out overcard hands and gutshots who would've called for one bet - but will not call for two.

The rest of your plan looks good. I can't see where I'd do anything different. NH!

morberg 06-22-2005 12:51 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
Thanks for the comments. Should I be worried about the flush draw? And does it matter that one of my tens is a diamond?

crunchy1 06-22-2005 12:54 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
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Thanks for the comments. Should I be worried about the flush draw? And does it matter that one of my tens is a diamond?

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I'm not going to worry about the flush draw. If the 4th diamond comes I'm not expecting Ten-high to be good.

fooz 06-22-2005 01:03 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
You should never "worry" (in limit at least)...way too weak. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Also, strive for reads. A read on the BB, even just a little passive or a little aggressive, would make it easy to clarify his hand.

It does help that you have a diamond because that's one less for people to draw too...or one less of a chance they have the draw.

The Turn check is good. BB will probably lead out and a made flush might raise.

The River I definitely lead out again: you can fold to a raise, you avoid it getting checked around, and an overpair would probably bet anyway but is not likely to raise your betting out.

imported_leader 06-22-2005 01:43 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
I can't see anything wrong with the hand. PF raise is standard.

LImitPlayer 06-22-2005 01:51 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
I'd probably play the turn a bit differently. I'd lead the turn.

mscags 06-22-2005 01:54 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
I play it the same although I do like the betting into the river and folding for a reraise.

Grease 06-22-2005 01:57 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
In a pot this big, I would be very hesitant to fold for one bet, which is why I really like the c/c line taken by the hero. You could set yourself up to be bluff raised (or raised by a higher overpair, totally in the realm of possibility) by doing this, and I really want to table my hand here.

morberg 06-22-2005 02:54 PM

Re: TT in SB, aggression from BB
 
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I'd probably play the turn a bit differently. I'd lead the turn.

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Would you fold to a raise?


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