a thought on tipping dealers
 

tipping is a sore subject so i thought i would revive it.

since some card rooms have shuffling machines about five more hands an hour are dealt. and dealers have less hand work to do that affects the health of their wrists and hands.
doesnt the more hands per hour equate to a raise for the dealers and less work to boot. should tips be lessend.
most would say no i think. but what if technology brought the speed of the game to 90 hands an hour. should dealers reap that new reward as well. if not are we tipping the amount for the hand or are we paying to increase the dealers hourly rate. if so what to.

Re: a thought on tipping dealers
 

if dealer are giving out more hands/hr because of a tech gizmo, my tips will certainly decrease a little bit.

why should a crappy dealer get more tips just because he/she can work a machine?

Re: a thought on tipping dealers
 

I don't know, Ray, but I don't mind throwing the dealer a buck or two when I win a pot. They're working people, and I appreciate it when they do their job well. And as far as the auto shufflers go, we benefit from that device too, especially when we're paying time charges.

Re: a thought on tipping dealers
 

Ray,
This advance has offset inflation a little. In most jobs you get raises over time to keep pace with inflation so wouldn't it follow that dealers should also get an increase in pay over time?

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I dunno, Ray. Another way to look at it is that if technology speeds up the game to 90 hands per hour, then your earn is going to go way up, so you also reap these benefits. I think that toking dealers by the hand can encourage some of them to want to deal as efficiently as possible, so that they get the most money possible (and those deserve the money, since they are making you more money). Of course, most dealers are too retarded to notice any of this, and fail to realize that time = money.

Then again, if the games are too fast, I think you'll end up playing smaller games, and your earn will go down, since the live ones will get broke too quickly, much like playing too big of games in markets that can't support it. If this is the case, then I would agree that tipping per hand would become very bad. In fact, there is more than just a little merit to this, and I probably lean a little towards this argument, but I figured I would present both sides.

Re: a thought on tipping dealers
 

The tip to hand ratio remains the same for me with or without the shuffling machine. I give a buck a pot unless the pot is very small (blinds only or one bet on the flop heads up). I am actually keeping track of my tips this year and so far (including floorpeople), my tips are over 2.00 an hour.
I think the machines are a Godsend, especially for the older dealers at Mirage who are really, really slow with the hand shuffling.

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Re: a thought on tipping dealers
 

Hell, I imagine that dealers could be nearly removed altogether in the near future. Think about it - if you have chips with RFID tags in them, and cards with RFID tags in them, and little "zones" in front of each player where they put their hand and one where they put their bet, it wouldn't take much of a sophisticated computer to keep the game running smoothly - nobody would be able to short the pot, and it could read hands for you to determine who won; any problems with bet sizes or anything else and the computer could turn on a red light to alert a floorman.

All the dealer would have to do is distribute cards and put the cards in the shufflemajigger after each hand (and even that might be able to be automated sometime)

And then there would be burning debates on the 2+2 forums over whether you should throw the computer a buck or two each time you win a pot... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Re: a thought on tipping dealers
 

ONE of my dealer friends at commerce told me poker players are the cheapest tippers...thats why she is on the pai gow section!

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