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scdavis0 11-22-2005 03:52 PM

Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
I doubled up villain on his 60BB stack like 20 minutes prior. My JJ v his 77 on a 79T flop. My image is as usual very aggressive/maniac style. Villain is weakish from what I can tell.

My instinct at the table was that this is an insta call. Tempo on villain's c/r all-in was INSTA.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($337.70)
Hero ($255.26)
UTG ($199.20)
MP ($384.25)
Button ($69.22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $19</font>, SB calls $14.

Flop: ($42) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, SB calls $316.70 (All-In)

beavens 11-22-2005 03:57 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
run away and live to fight another day.

feels like we're DOMINATED here by a larger pair.

the machine 11-22-2005 03:58 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
call and if he setted you again then so be it. he will find out where he is at with an over pair 9 times out of 10 on this board. probably ak aqsuit and knows the board didnt hit you with you pf raise. the insta all in is why id call. just doesnt seem like a hand that can be beating you. i dont know what hand he could have that would check here postflop that could actually beat you

the machine 11-22-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
you really dont think an over pair here bets out at the pot. on a fairly connected board i think villian bets here given heros maniac style will not let him draw for free unless villian is good enough to know that hero will bet. what is your post flop bet% hero? this would make a difference in my call or fold

beavens 11-22-2005 04:02 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
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you really dont think an over pair here bets out at the pot. on a fairly connected board i think villian bets here given heros maniac style will not let him draw for free unless villian is good enough to know that hero will bet. what is your post flop bet% hero? this would make a difference in my call or fold

[/ QUOTE ]

could just have wanted to c/r.

the machine 11-22-2005 04:04 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
i personally see a leading bet more often then not but your # of hands may be way higher then mine

scdavis0 11-22-2005 04:10 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
Ok I ran his likely hand range through Poker Stove.

Seems like a trivial call.

Board: 9d 7h 6c
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 47.4903 % 45.56% 01.93% { TcTh }
Hand 2: 52.5097 % 50.58% 01.93% { 66+, JTs, T7s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, JTo, T8o+, 97o+, 87o }

11-22-2005 04:36 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
That is one optimistic hand range.

scdavis0 11-22-2005 04:36 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
Kathleen can you help me improve it? Can you develop a reasonable hand range where the 1.6+ to 1 that I'm getting is insufficient to call?

11-22-2005 04:39 PM

Re: Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL
 
I fold this immediately.

I'm surprised everyone else seems on the fence. What do you think you're beating here?

Any overpair has you beat (JJ/QQ/KK/AA), and anyone mining a set has you beat. There's no draws otherwise...but.... wtf.... call $250 for tens??????

I'm not a great player, but this feels like an easy laydown to me. Find a better spot somewhere else.


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