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BIGRED 11-12-2005 03:43 PM

J9o in BB
 
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For now please comment on the preflop call. I have no reads on anyone. I will post the rest of the hand later.

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

brazilio 11-12-2005 03:49 PM

Re: J9o in BB
 
I make calls like that as well, especially if you think it's an isolation. I've recently been wondering if stuff like J9o and Q9o, etc are actually +EV in the BB making calls like that though, but I'd need a massive number of hands to figure out profitability of hands like that.

BIGRED 11-12-2005 04:07 PM

Re: J9o in BB
 
I suppose the flop call is questionable, but I don't think it's all that bad. Please tell me if you guys think otherwise... that it's bad, without a doubt.

BIGRED 11-12-2005 04:09 PM

THE FLOP
 
Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, SB calls.

7ontheline 11-12-2005 04:19 PM

Re: THE FLOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, SB calls.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like it all so far. Two callers kinda sucks bad though. I would proceed very carefully on the turn, and be ready to give this up soon if necessary. You could easily be behind and a lot of cards that improve you also finish draws. Lots of outs against you too, I'm sure.

BIGRED 11-12-2005 04:57 PM

Re: THE FLOP
 
so you don't think the preflop and the flop was bad on my part?

BongRips 11-12-2005 05:00 PM

Re: J9o in BB
 
I call that preflop every time.

Starzinger 11-12-2005 05:00 PM

Re: THE FLOP
 
I think it looks good aswell. I would probably give up pretty easily on the turn though, unless you improve.

BIGRED 11-12-2005 05:05 PM

THE TURN and RESULT
 
Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds.

River: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Starzinger 11-12-2005 05:17 PM

Re: THE TURN and RESULT
 
Im not sure you can fold that with the gutshot draw coming in though. You're very likely to have 6 outs, and getting 9-1 on your call is a little bit too much too fold.


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