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JFB37 10-18-2005 12:58 PM

Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
5/10 live at a club. Two limpers, CO makes it 35 (he's a LAG and a bully, means little), Hero calls on the button
with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Rock in BB makes it 105, limpers fold, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Rock leads for $300, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Rock pushes, Hero calls.

Hero's original call of the CO's raise was on the theory that the CO could have anything and that the limpers would probably call to make a nice sized pot. The BB's re-raise changed everything. Hero's overcall of the BB's re-raise was on the basis that it was only 70 more into a 255 pot and it was almost certain that BB had a big pair. Clever or stupid?

How about on the flop? Nobody folds, do they? Issue, I think, is call or push. BB might get away from an overpair with a push (and say something about Hero's flopped set) but is just calling too risky as it might lead to a tough decision if, say, a A or K hits on the turn.

spoohunter 10-18-2005 01:09 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
What do you do if you turn a 5?

solid 10-18-2005 01:10 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
stack sizes are essential here. seems like you'd have to be pretty deep to make calling the flop the optimal play.

fsuplayer 10-18-2005 01:39 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
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What do you do if you turn a 5?

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call. wtf else would you do?

ML4L 10-18-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
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Good LAG Spot?

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Hero calls

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Hero calls.

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Hero calls.

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Hero calls.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

ML4L

Big_Jim 10-18-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
Push the flop.

italianstang 10-18-2005 02:33 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
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with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] . Rock in BB makes it 105, limpers fold, CO calls, Hero calls.

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???

Is your position in this hand so much of an advantage that you really want to be in this hand? Against this player(s)?

Big_Jim 10-18-2005 02:36 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
Assuming ~100BB stack sizes... PF is awful.

Even if you stack him every time you outflop him, you're losing money.

If it were much deeper, you might be able to justify it.

BobboFitos 10-18-2005 02:55 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
lol, v good post mike

fsuplayer 10-18-2005 03:07 PM

Re: Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?
 
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Assuming ~100BB stack sizes... PF is awful.

Even if you stack him every time you outflop him, you're losing money.

If it were much deeper, you might be able to justify it.

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unless i missed it, he didnt include stack sizes, but if we assume $1k stacks to start, then he can win $255+895, while only calling $70 more.

unless im doing something wrong, that call is ok, right?


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