I suck at closing
 

So when it comes to women, I am real good at getting and keeping attention. I never have a problem meeting someone while going out and getting it going good. But then by the end of the night I [censored] up at getting someone to come back with me and go home alone. For instance monday night i hooked up with some girl that was just turned 21 (a good thing indeed) but waited too long to make a move and she ended up getting sick. I didn't feel like dealing with that and bounced. Last night I ran into some girls who remembered me from middle school and spent awhile talking to them. One mentioned she wanted to get high, somehow I couldn't get the whole thing out that I had a joint at the house etc. etc. Plus I never seem to remember to ask for a phone number which is real dumb.

So anyway, anybody got any good suggestions on closing the deal. Not necessarily for the "lets go hook up" maneuvre but just the lets chill since the bar is closing.

p.s. I'm going to vegas next week and need a local person to help me out with some stuff, I promise to repay the favor with money, drinks, or a bottle of bourbon. PM me

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Bring in the Wild Thing Mitch Williams

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"That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a [censored]. Good father? [censored] you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here - close! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you [censored]? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit? You don't like it, leave."

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One mentioned she wanted to get high, somehow I couldn't get the whole thing out that I had a joint at the house etc. etc

Dear god man. That's not 'not closing' that's not showing up to play.

Girl: "I want to get high."
You: "I have some weed at my place."

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i know, i suck. what can i say.

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i know, i suck. what can i say.

Can you say "I have some weed at my place?" or "You wanna go out sometime?" or "You wanna get outta here?" Cause if you're actually hitting it off with these girls, it doesn't take much more than that.

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i more tend to run out of time and then its late, im drunk and [censored] ends up wrong.
I should be able to say that [censored], and hopefully i will tonight if this hangover ever goes away.

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Not necessarily for the "lets go hook up" maneuvre but just the lets chill since the bar is closing.

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"hey the bar is closing, but there's a party at my place."

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Sounds like some part of you is afraid they'll say no. That you aren't learning anything from your standard first blush of success when starting the whole thing off talking to them, and carrying it over to the mid-game or endgame. If even succeeding makes you feel like you might be a failure, you've got problems.

Sometimes they say no. So what. It really doesn't hurt to ask. At least not unless you grind it into your soul. Find a way to put less emotion into just asking. It's too early to get all hyped up on the consequences of what's going down when you haven't even gotten her anywhere near the sack yet.

Are you afraid you're not nice enough of a guy, or worthwhile enough in some way, to ask without it coming off like a million to one shot? No matter how pretty they are, they've probably hung around with worse than you, and may just do so that very night. Try to be a lower pressure guy both to yourself and them, just someone who can let things succeed and be fun. Not a guy all full of consequences.

If they're hanging with you at all, they're already at least somewhat on your side and would like for you to succeed. How far, is up to the girl, but even that can change a lot depending on your charm. But basically It's just up to you not to blow it, and only the meanest, stupidest ones want to watch you self-destruct. Give them a fair chance to say yes. Enjoy yourself enough to be cool to be around, so just hanging around you in general seems like a fun idea. Then your asking her to go somewhere besides the bar, to your place, whatever, won't be such a heavy thing for either of you. Learn to be the guy who's relaxed and happy enough that if a girl says no it doesn't blow his ego or slow him down, and you'll get a lot more girls saying yes.

And you won't get in a funk about the ones who don't.

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"That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a [censored]. Good father? [censored] you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here - close! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you [censored]? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit? You don't like it, leave."

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F'n awesome!!

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Jeebus,

Wow, that part w/ the chick wanting to get high and you HAVING WEED BACK AT YOUR PLACE is really pathetic.

OK. You need to keep it super simple. One line that will work in every single situation.

So, from now on, anytime you get yourself into one of these spots, use the following: "Hey, I'm having a party at my house now, you should come over."

I used this throughout my 20s with great success. Sometimes, you will need to frantically make some phone calls to get some other people to come over. Most times it won't matter.

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My advice (not the i'm the master or anything) is to get things warmed up at the bar BEFORE putting in the bid for her to leave with you. If you're a good dancer, play that angle. Keep the liquor flowing but dont get her wasted. Something as innocent as a hand on her shoulder for a 3-count can go a long way if she's interested.

This all depends on the girl by the way. If she's the party-chick type, and she's spent more than 10-15 minutes talking to you, the door is open and all you have to do is say "let's get out of here." If it's the girlfriend, bring-her-home-to-meet-parents type, she isnt going to do much with you on the first night anyway. Better way to play those types is to ask them out on an actual dinner date, get their number, and call them 48 hours later to follow up on it.

So, to summarize:

Party chick: keep the booze flowing, make a clear cut move in the bar. If she responds positively, you're in. If not, move on to the next party girl. If there are none left, call it a night and go home.

Mom and Dad type: spend the evening talking to her. Act interested in everything she has to say. Make it seem like you have the same interests. At the end of the night, ask her if she'd like to have dinner.


If she's somewhere in between, then i would suggest mixing the two methods. I'm married now, so maybe my methodology is a bit dated, but it worked when i was in college 10 yrs ago. Then again, i wasnt exactly bringing home Angelina Jolie look-alikes. I was much more of a quantity guy than a quality guy, for better or for worse.

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"Hey, yo, afterbars are at my joint, dont know whos comming for sure, but you can ride with me if you want."



If you cant memorize what I just typed, just write it on your forearm, and cheat.

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quids,

What about when he wants to pick up chicks someplace other than Jersey or Compton?

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"That watch costs more than you car. I made $970,000 last year. How much you make? You see pal, that's who I am, and you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a [censored]. Good father? [censored] you! Go home and play with your kids. You wanna work here - close! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you [censored]? You can't take this, how can you take the abuse you get on a sit? You don't like it, leave."

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5...glenros5dp.jpg

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With all the recent 'always be closing' posts, I thought I would find out where they came from. Found the movie (Glengarry Glen Ross) and was thinking about renting it...is it actually any good or just some early 90's crap?

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Do yourself a favor and rent it yesterday.

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Jeebus
by your own admission, you are incompetent at this
think about what Tyler Durden, Steve McQueen, etc. would do, and then do it. You cannot cope on your own

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Do yourself a favor and rent it yesterday.

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Wow, that part w/ the chick wanting to get high and you HAVING WEED BACK AT YOUR PLACE is really pathetic.

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I'm waiting for some sort of comeback from the OP on this one. This is too entertaining to die a silent death.

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i know it though, so I got no good come back. Sucks to be me, on a side note I still get my share of ass so its all good.

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Follow this simple pictorial guide

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"hey the bar is closing, but there's a party in my pants."

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quids,

What about when he wants to pick up chicks someplace other than Jersey or Compton?

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Then you can drop the hey, yo, and just say,


"afterbars are in my WASP-parents, mahogany covered study, if you would like to join us for petit-fours, and triangular sanwhiches with their crusts cut off, Id be more than pleased."

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quids,

What about when he wants to pick up chicks someplace other than Jersey or Compton?

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Then you can drop the hey, yo, and just say,


"afterbars are in my WASP-parents, mahogany covered study, if you would like to join us for petit-fours, and triangular sanwhiches with their crusts cut of, Id be more than pleased."

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Heh heh.

Petit-fours, nice.

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And to answer you question, pal, why am I here? I came here because Mitch and Murray asked me to. They asked me for a favor. I said the real favor, follow my advice and fire your [censored] ass because a loser is a loser.

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quids,

Well done, my friend. But, seriously, who says "afterbars" ?

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quids,

Well done, my friend. But, seriously, who says "afterbars" ?

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Its a common term here.

person 1: where you going tonight?

person 2: dunno, probably here until 1:30, there until 3, then afterbars at bills house

person 3: oh, cool.

I didnt realize it was a regional thing.

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We say afterbar in Madison too.

On the other hand, we don't use the words "yo," "joint," or "ride" when inviting someone to them.