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ChipWrecked 12-13-2005 05:54 AM

A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
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PoBoy321 12-13-2005 06:00 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge
 
I voted yes because, despite my personal objections to the Death Penalty, I don't see how he has much of a case to have his sentence overturned.

New001 12-13-2005 06:13 AM

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Does that work better? I voted for no by the way in the original poll.

ChipWrecked 12-13-2005 06:16 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
Thanks. Geez, what a mess.

I was on the jury of the trial of which the above is a transcript of the appeal. We voted for death. Read what this guy did.

New001 12-13-2005 06:19 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
Tinyurl rocks. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] This guy certainly sounds awful, and this would probably be the type of crime that I would suggest the death penalty for if I supported execution in general. Our society probably wouldn't lose much or anything from his death (discounting monetary costs of execution vs. prison time), but I don't see it benefitting society or the victims. Thus, life in prison without parole would be my preference.

I wouldn't hold it against anybody for wanting this guy dead. I don't know how it works in reality, is it 100% up to the jurors or are there guidelines to follow that they need to decide based on?

PoBoy321 12-13-2005 06:20 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
I really can't answer without the original trial transcript and an understanding of what aggravating factors are necessary in Georgia to condemn a man to death.

That said, I probably wouldn't have been on the jury in the first place.

ChipWrecked 12-13-2005 06:31 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
Guidelines were 'particularly horrible circumstances' (or something to that effect), torture was involved, (we deemed psychological torture of the mother, she had to listen to her children being attacked while she bled out upstairs), crime was during the commission of another felony, some other stuff I don't recall.

(I was fairly PO'd to end up on the jury myself, I was #12 and believe I was a defense pick after prosecution ran out of 'dings' as I had a fairly anti-law enforcement background... needless to say it backfired on the defense)

PoBoy321 12-13-2005 06:36 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
Given those guidelines, I think that it seems like in this instance, the death penalty was warranted in accordance with Georgia law, so if I were on the jury, which I'm sure I wouldn't be because of my personal beliefs about the death penalty, I would have to vote to execute.

New001 12-13-2005 06:37 AM

Re: A death penalty case: you be the judge *DELETED*
 
I'm terribly dumb with regards to this, so more questions. Are jurors expected to decide without taking into account personal feelings about the death penalty itself? If so, I think I'd likely suggest death for reasons similar to what you gave.

ChipWrecked 12-13-2005 07:35 AM

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Voir dire was pretty heavy on death penalty attitudes, though potential jurors who voiced anti-death penalty beliefs got a pretty thorough going over. I suppose the court knew there would be a large number of potentials who would try to use it. The jury pool had 600 people. 12 jurors and 4 alternates were selected.

I felt pretty ill when I heard my number called.


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