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12-02-2005 12:02 PM

Flopped a set, but staight and flush draws come on turn/river
 
Hello all,

Comments welcome on all streets.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($50)
MP3 ($45.63)
CO ($116.63)
Button ($45.36)
SB ($47)
BB ($38.25)
UTG ($51.05)
UTG+1 ($42.62)
MP1 ($48.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($5.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, BB calls $3, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($11.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6.

River: ($35.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50.25

-Grant

mosuavea 12-02-2005 12:06 PM

Re: Flopped a set, but staight and flush draws come on turn/river
 
I think you have to resraise that turn

beavens 12-02-2005 12:07 PM

Re: Flopped a set, but staight and flush draws come on turn/river
 
needs a bigger bet on the flop - at least pot and maybe more.

turn bet is weak - come out min for the pot.

river, as played, i would call. yeah he mightve made his straight or less likely flush, but he's betting $15 into a $35 pot.

Iconoclastic 12-02-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Flopped a set, but staight and flush draws come on turn/river
 
Reraise to as much as you think he will call on the Turn. Call River.

What is the logic behind calling on the Turn?

12-02-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Flopped a set, but staight and flush draws come on turn/river
 
Bet more on flop. Bet more on turn. His raise here could mean many things given your bet sizes, but as you played it I push the turn here.

Leptyne 12-02-2005 01:50 PM

Re: Flopped a set, but staight and flush draws come on turn/river
 
When the made str8 flops and I catch middle set in EP with 4 players trying to catch something I know somebody has at least a str8 draw. I'm going to either c/c this down and fold when the another str8 card hits, or the back door flush, or I'm fighting for this pot.

Personally I'm naturally agro. I fire an overbet of $7-8 at the flop. If BB calls and checks it to me on the turn I'm firing my second barrel. With a pot size of ~$20 I'll look at my stack of ~$40 and realize that a pot sized bet commits me, so I'll push. This eliminates implied odds for a draw. If I'm betting into a made str8 then its the same as betting into a higher set. I just can't get away from this hand when it's checked to me on the flop.


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