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How many hands do you have on MP3 with his 0% PFR, or on UTG?

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How many hands do you have on MP3 with his 0% PFR, or on UTG?

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All reads were between 100 and 200 hands

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Do you think at all about folding preflop against these types of opponents? PFR-5 opens UTG and is 3bet by PFR-0? Absent reads, or more normal TAG or LAG stats on the guys the cap is standard, just wondering.

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Do you think at all about folding preflop against these types of opponents? PFR-5 opens UTG and is 3bet by PFR-0? Absent reads, or more normal TAG or LAG stats on the guys the cap is standard, just wondering.

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I spent a solid ten seconds thinking about it

Re: QQ and everyone likes their hand
 

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Big Blind - 37/0.21
UTG - 20/5/1.6
Other Villian - 31/0/1.8

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>


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If all those stats are for over 100 hands:

Fold pre-flop.

Would I have made a mistake?

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If all those stats are for over 100 hands:

Fold pre-flop.

Would I have made a mistake?

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I don't see how you can fold this premium hand pre-flop.

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If all those stats are for over 100 hands:

Fold pre-flop.

Would I have made a mistake?

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I don't see how you can fold this premium hand pre-flop.

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Somone that has a 0% PFR over 100-200 hands just 3bet an UTG raise. IMO folding is definitely an option.

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Fold pre-flop.

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I am tempted to 2nd Borodog here. Think of it this way, is he really 3betting AKs here being this passive? Probably not.

IMO against these kinds of players, I advocate calling the flop, turn and river until I'm clearly beat.

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Players for whom the first raise you see in 200 hands is a three-bet of an EP raiser have AA over 90% of the time.

Re: QQ and everyone likes their hand
 

1. Big blind has any set because he would have had the odds to call preflop.
2. UTG is either AsJs, AsQs, or AsKs. (KK or AA possible)
3. MP3 has JJ, KK, or AA.
4. HERO should fold because he doesn't have the odds to draw to one out. There is a good chance that UTG has a big spade draw which makes folding the right place.