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12-30-2005 06:28 PM

is villain saying \'i have boat\' ?
 
villain is 42/13 am i too newb to fold this on turn? what is heroes action on turn? was checking bad?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($16.55)
Button ($48.40)
SB ($16.85)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($45.85)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($87.63)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $80</font>, Hero calls $43.35 (All-In).

River: ($128.45) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $128.45
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $91.80, between Hero and UTG.</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $36.65, returned to UTG.</font>

12-30-2005 06:44 PM

Re: is villain saying \'i have boat\' ?
 
Minimum raises and reraises so often scream SET its ridonkulous. If I folded top pair every time I got minraised I'd be up a lot more money. Sure you can "call for pot odds" but there's no cards you can catch to win, and when you call any bet in NL/PL you have to consider what it's going to cost you to play on future streets.

When he shoves the turn you truly can't call. I know YOU have 3 Queens. But the *only* thing you're beating is Q10 and lower, and a bluff.

Opponent actually played the turn pretty well when he figured you for a Queen and shoved knowing he'd get called with the nuts.

Just learn from it and try again next time.

Recliner 12-30-2005 08:30 PM

Re: is villain saying \'i have boat\' ?
 
I don't see calling the overbet at that limit to be a profitable play and agree with PurpleLight that a set is highly likely in this situation. Unless you have a good read, an overbet like that usually means you are toast.

12-30-2005 08:36 PM

Re: is villain saying \'i have boat\' ?
 
dude
you have $2 in that pot
he raised the flop, which means at best he also has a queen, and at worst he has you completely raped
the turn is insta fold. It's an insta fold if he bet $10.

boondockst 12-30-2005 09:32 PM

Re: is villain saying \'i have boat\' ?
 
While not likely, Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] x[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is possible yet it is obviously not something to hope for when the villain pushes that much.


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