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dumb ox 12-27-2005 06:33 PM

is this as bad as it seems?
 
No stats, but UTG seems to be getting a little out of hand.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 8.20 BB

12-27-2005 06:35 PM

Re: is this as bad as it seems?
 
YES

dumb ox 12-27-2005 06:52 PM

Re: is this as bad as it seems?
 
thanks

imported_leader 12-27-2005 08:24 PM

Re: is this as bad as it seems?
 
Yeah pretty much. You took a shot, which is fine. It didn't work. So call. Then call the turn and fold UI. BTW I think a 4 is improvement here.

Walrus 12-27-2005 08:39 PM

Re: is this as bad as it seems?
 
[ QUOTE ]
BTW I think a 4 is improvement here.

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On the turn, he's behind A high, and any pp. If a 4 comes, A high is now a straight... Or are you saying he can now represent the straight?

imported_leader 12-27-2005 08:43 PM

Re: is this as bad as it seems?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
BTW I think a 4 is improvement here.

[/ QUOTE ]

On the turn, he's behind A high, and any pp. If a 4 comes, A high is now a straight... Or are you saying he can now represent the straight?

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I guess it comes down to how you interpret "UTG seems to be getting a little out of hand." To me that sounds like he's raising 2x, 3x, and some random nonsense. Therefore, I think a 4 wins us the pot enough to c/c the river.

BreakfastBurrito 12-27-2005 08:47 PM

Re: is this as bad as it seems?
 
if he's getting out of hand then trying to put a move on him with 8 high probably isn't the way to go. He'll likely call with any piece and a lot of A high's on that board.

I think the only really bad part about the hand is 3 betting the flop though. Once you've done that, the turn and river bets aren't so bad.


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