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JerBear77 11-04-2005 10:22 PM

Two Inflection Point problems......
 
Hand #1

Blinds 250/500
Ante 100

Hero: 5200 K
Rest of table is greater than me, ranging from 6500 to 13000


8 people at table

Dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] EP


(Blinds will be increasing in 1 min)

Push here??
If not, what do you need to push?



Hand #2


500/1000 Blinds

Hero: 9000
Villian: 4200

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]



Villian in BB
Hero in MP


Hero limps, everyone folds to BB


Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villian goes all in giving hero roughly 2 to 1 pot odds.
Call here?

Bigdaddydvo 11-04-2005 10:25 PM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
Looks like two folds to me.

11-04-2005 10:26 PM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand #1

Blinds 250/500
Ante 100

Hero: 5200 K
Rest of table is greater than me, ranging from 6500 to 13000


8 people at table

Dealt K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] EP


(Blinds will be increasing in 1 min)

Push here??
If not, what do you need to push?



Hand #2


500/1000 Blinds

Hero: 9000
Villian: 4200

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]



Villian in BB
Hero in MP


Hero limps, everyone folds to BB


Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villian goes all in giving hero roughly 2 to 1 pot odds.
Call here?

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First one is a good play, your M is around 3 depending on how many people at the table, and you have good vigorish. Second one not so good, if villain is BB he could have easily hit that flop.

Exitonly 11-04-2005 10:27 PM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
Hand 1 i fold, a rough guess of what i'd push w/ here... 77+, AJo+, KQs

hand 2: i push here PF. And no, if i somehow got to the flop, i fold to his bet there. I think.

nath 11-04-2005 11:39 PM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
I push both preflop in almost all likelihood. I definitely do NOT limp hand 2.

ilya 11-05-2005 12:11 AM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
IMO both are pretty easy PF shoves. In han 1 I shove probably top 75-80%.

AtticusFinch 11-05-2005 12:33 AM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
Hand 1: Fold. I'd think about shoving this late, but not early. This can be table-dependent, though. If EP pushes are given excessive respect at your table (sometimes the case at Stars), you might decide to shove it anyway.

Hand 2: Push pf. Given the limp, fold. He hit that flop, or has a small pair.

ilya 11-05-2005 12:40 AM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: Fold. I'd think about shoving this late, but not early. This can be table-dependent, though. If EP pushes are given excessive respect at your table (sometimes the case at Stars), you might decide to shove it anyway.


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The guy only has 3xpot & you want him to muck a strong King?!

Exitonly 11-05-2005 12:40 AM

Re: Two Inflection Point problems......
 
[ QUOTE ]
In han 1 I shove probably top 75-80%.


[/ QUOTE ]

I did a little math when i saw people disagree about hand 1..
KTo should be like + 1-ish BB on average..

i can't imagine that the bottom part of that 75% range you'd be pushing would not be +cEV. My guess is that ~40% would be good to push here. Maybe i'll do more math later, but probably not, because i'm lazy/


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