Two KK hands
Stars $20+2 rebuy tourney.
Hand No. 1 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter Button (t1500) SB (t1500) BB (t3000) Hero (t3000) UTG+1 (t1500) MP1 (t3000) MP2 (t1500) CO (t3000) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB calls t80, BB calls t70. Flop: (t270) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, SB folds, BB calls t200. Turn: (t670) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, BB calls t500. River: (t1670) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1240</font>, <font color="red">Hero...???</font> Hand No. 2 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) MP3 (t1130) CO (t1685) Button (t6910) Hero (t8940) BB (t3345) UTG (t5590) UTG+1 (t2755) MP1 (t2750) MP2 (t2895) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t90</font>, MP3 calls t90, CO calls t90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t410, MP3 calls t410, CO calls t410. Flop: (t2030) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">[b]<font color="red">Hero...???</font> |
Re: Two KK hands
wow, talk about wanting to vomit..
hand #1 there is so many hands that kill you here, i cant see calling. I dont think he has an ace but I think he wants you to call with an Ace. Hand #2 Mathmatically There is about a 80% chance that someone has an ace. With the preflop action I would say it is really 100%, so hit the nearest fire exit. |
Re: Two KK hands
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hand #1 there is so many hands that kill you here, i cant see calling. I dont think he has an ace but I think he wants you to call with an Ace. [/ QUOTE ] True, but I probably call anyway in rebuy. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] Hand #2 Mathmatically There is about a 80% chance that someone has an ace. With the preflop action I would say it is really 100%, so hit the nearest fire exit. [/ QUOTE ] It's really only 34% mathematically (assuming opponents have random hands), but the preflop action does increase that number dramatically (i.e. we assume opponents' hands are not random) so check-fold is probably OK. If you had enough to bet 60% of the pot and then get away, you could try it, but your opponents are too short in this case. Later, Che |
Re: Two KK hands
Those actually hurt to read.
I muck them both. Villain in 1 was almost certainly calling along with the Ac. In 2, you have two outs. Check/fold. |
Re: Two KK hands
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[ QUOTE ] hand #1 there is so many hands that kill you here, i cant see calling. I dont think he has an ace but I think he wants you to call with an Ace. [/ QUOTE ] True, but I probably call anyway in rebuy. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] Hand #2 Mathmatically There is about a 80% chance that someone has an ace. With the preflop action I would say it is really 100%, so hit the nearest fire exit. [/ QUOTE ] It's really only 34% mathematically (assuming opponents have random hands), but the preflop action does increase that number dramatically (i.e. we assume opponents' hands are not random) so check-fold is probably OK. If you had enough to bet 60% of the pot and then get away, you could try it, but your opponents are too short in this case. Later, Che [/ QUOTE ] i agree w/ both. |
Re: Two KK hands
KK is a nice starting hand, but I play these both the same way I would play 33 if I was the third limper into a pot and I missed my set. Try playing Omaha if you want practice laying down big starting hands.
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Re: Two KK hands
I missed the Rebuy part.
I think It might Make hand #1 a closer call. Hand #2 I was going off the chart in SS, page 578. 9 handed - you have no ace % that no other player has an ace. 20.14%. |
Re: Two KK hands
Omaha , oh the pain [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].
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Re: Two KK hands
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KK is a nice starting hand, but I play these both the same way I would play 33 if I was the third limper into a pot and I missed my set. Try playing Omaha if you want practice laying down big starting hands. [/ QUOTE ] that's horrible advice. you'd check-fold the flop in the first one? |
Re: Two KK hands
Hand #1: Folded to river bet.
Hand #2: Made a weak t500 raise hoping to post oak bluff (I know, I know...I'm embarassed to even post I did that [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ). MP2 re-raises all-in and MP3 calls. I fold. MP2 turns over K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and hits his nut flush on the turn. MP3 had A rag. Just wanted to check if my laydowns were too weak. |
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