Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MICROPOSTER raises, BB 3-bets, MICROPOSTER calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MICROPOSTER checks, BB bets, MICROPOSTER calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MICROPOSTER checks, BB bets, MICROPOSTER calls.

River: (6 BB) T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MICROPOSTER checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

I know this is not a strict application of CT since it's not a 4 flush board. But the ck/c ck/c b/f line seems appropriate here unless BB will call down with anything. Am I seeing this as a good use of that WA/WB line or not.

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

This is a good spot to bet the river... a pretty standard line with top pair Ace in a blind battle like this.

I just straight up chickened out. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

To me the 3-bet PF says "You aint stealing this one, I like my cards." He may have an ace, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ QT. I think a C/R on the flop makes this hand play differently. So I don't like the WA/WB line here.

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MICROPOSTER raises, BB 3-bets, MICROPOSTER calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MICROPOSTER checks

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Someone please explain this too me.

Why exactly are you checking here? I seriously don't get it. Are you checking the flop in order to pop a non heart on the turn? I could see that line.

Of course, you just call the turn too. So, I really don't get it. Do you think YHIG and he is agro enough to keep betting it for you? Do you think you are probably beat and you are just calling your pair of aces down?

Even with the 3 bet on flop from him, I would think we are ahead most of the time. AA beats us, but I could see him 3 bet all the way down to 66 easily. If he thinks you are trying to steal, he might pop you back with any 2 just to bloody your nose.

I am not doing well at all in 6 max. I have never played a limit this high. So when I say "someone please explain this too me." I mean it without sarcasm. This hand just makes no sense to me at all.

-D

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

I'm not sure, it seems the c flop/turn is setting up hero for a c/r somewhere but he never did.

I do think he's ahead often enough here to bet somewhere, TP in a blind battle seems pretty strong to just call down.

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

you gotta throw a bet in here somewhere and if you're worried about a bigger ace I think the river is the place for it since he's worried about that second ten. But as Saint D said, I don't play that high so you might have your reasons, I also haven't played much 6-max. But I think not throwing in at least one bet with TP against a blind defense is just weak-tight (and I am weak-tight so that's saying something)

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

I know you know... but you really need to pull the trigger on the river. You lose a lot of the value of the WA/WB line when you don't bet unless Villain is very aggressive (in which case you usually only lose some of the value unless he's also bad), or latgastic (in which case you probably find a raise somewhere). You can't let Villain check through his losers and bet his winners after allowing him to lose the least the whole way -- it's the win the most bit, and it's a pretty important thing to leave out. You can bet/call or bet/fold as you think appropriate vs this Villain, but you have to bet.

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

Check/call, check/call, bet/call. Don't bet/fold.

Rob

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

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Check/call, check/call, bet/call. Don't bet/fold.

Rob

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Why not bet/call on the flop? Top pair seems too strong a hand in this situation to play this passively.

Re: Hand 22 anyone take Clarkmeister line on scary river
 

Entity's advocating a WA/WB line here and doesn't want villian to fold to the flop bet with a far worse hand than ours.