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michiganlaw 10-20-2005 06:03 PM

Live \"AA\" facing turn raise
 
Live $2-$5 spread limit, Colorado casino. Hand before Hero had Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], raised to $7 pre-flop and no callers. Not getting much respect for my raises, so after QQ hand I declare I'm raising any two cards.

Very next hand, Hero wakes up with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], beautiful!

UTG calls $2, MP1 calls $2, folds to CO who calls $2, Hero on the button raises to $7; the three called for a $28 pot to the flop.

FLOP:
10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $5, Hero raises to $10, folds around to CO who calls.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO raises to $10, Hero . . .

what's your line for the turn and river?

TheRegulat0r 10-20-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Live \"AA\" facing turn raise
 
After the limpers you should make it $12 or $15 to go pre-flop.

Your flop raise is too weak also. There is $27 in the pot plus his $5 bet. A normal raise would be raising the pot, which would make it $37 to go. Given that your game appears passive, $30 would probably be fine. $10 is way too weak. You're pricing way too many draws in and not charging top pair enough.

michiganlaw 10-20-2005 06:18 PM

Re: Live \"AA\" facing turn raise
 
Well, if this wasn't a "spread LIMIT" game, your comments would be right on. I can only bet a maximum of $5 on every street. Thought I said this in my OP...sorry for the confusion.

10-20-2005 06:50 PM

Re: Live \"AA\" facing turn raise
 
Call down. Pot is large, you probably have outs and there's a chance he's doing this with JJ-KK. While you may be drawing dead to a straight or slim to a set it's usually two pair. Raise the river if the board pairs, hoping to counterfeit him and fold to a 3-bet which would mean he got his full house.

(Most players with a made two pair or straight on the flop would slowplay and pop the expensive street, but since it's 2-5 spread and doesn't change on the bigger streets, that leads me to believe the 2 gave him two pair or a set. Or he just doesn't realize he would have gotten similar value out of 3-betting the flop.)

The Goober 10-20-2005 06:54 PM

Re: Live \"AA\" facing turn raise
 
I don't play any spread limit games, so I'm not sure how to read the betting amounts. So far everyone has just be the max whenever given the oportunity, so its sounds like it plays like a 5-5-5-5 game with 1-2 blinds.

Anyways, a read on the CO would be helpful here. If he's totally unknown, I'd probably just call it down. His bet-call-CR line usually means a strong hand, or at least better than one pair. However, if he's got 2 pair then you've got 8 outs to beat him, and the possibility that he's betting a pair + straight draw (like 9T) makes me want to call the river bet getting at least 13:1.

TheRegulat0r 10-20-2005 07:59 PM

Re: Live \"AA\" facing turn raise
 
Oops, really sorry about that. I thought I was browsing the small stakes PL/NL forum. My bad [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img].


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