Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME
 

Range of hands: pretty large, including medium pairs and big connectors both suited and unsuited. A str8 seems unlikely as does AA. A flush or a set is possible.

Most likely I have the best hand and BVT is trying to assert his superiority and knock me off of it. But the pot is big, and I have no good evidence that I'm beat.

So on the river I bet and call if he raises.

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Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

Based on your actions, I put you on a strong draw on the flop. So either you got there on the river with hearts, or you missed with QJ.

Either way I don't see much value in betting the river. I'd rather check and try to induce a bluff from the QJ.

Also, even in the case where my read is off and you have another hand, my actions have defined my hand pretty well, I would think, and I can't imagine being called by many worse hands

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME
 

Despite the 3-flush and 3-straight on the board (admittedly this latter one is all be irrelevant given the action), you decide to fire out a bet on the river.

Barron grabs 4 chips with each hand and double-fists out the raise.

There's now $245 (12.25 BB) sitting out in the middle of the table.

Do you fold?

Call?

Raise?

Why?
Why not?

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

I now call because I think there's at least a 1/12 chance you're making a last-ditch-effort bluff with a whiffed straight draw.

I don't like it, though, and this is why I said check the river.

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

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Despite the 3-flush and 3-straight on the board (admittedly this latter one is all be irrelevant given the action), you decide to fire out a bet on the river.

Barron grabs 4 chips with each hand and double-fists out the raise.

There's now $245 (12.25 BB) sitting out in the middle of the table.

Do you fold?

Call?

Raise?

Why?
Why not?

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

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Does Barron know that I'm a 2+2er?

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

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Does Barron know that I'm a 2+2er?

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Yeah, he does. He pointed that out in one of the posts earlier. I think that makes the river a pretty easy bet/call.

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

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Bet call since there are alot more hands you're ahead of here that might check behind.

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Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

Unless BVT is trying to work some reverse psychology a draw is unlikely since the turn call would be just about as immediate as the flop raise, especially with a flush draw. Moreover putting a fourth bet in on the flop against a 2+2er who will almost certainly not give a free card when he shouldn't with just a flush draw seems unlikely. After he calls the turn I say his range is AT-JT, perhaps with one [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I would bet/call the river. My guess though is that if BVT does show the winning hand it would be 9T, perhaps waiting for the river to not counterfeit his hand so he could raise someone who will very likely value bet.

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ... ME
 

And the million dollar answer is...

He made the tough laydown and folded.

Could you make this laydown?

Is this a smart place to save a BB?

Does poker come down to these razor decisions and falling on the right side of them?

Should I be asking rhetorical questions at 2:30 in the morning after being out all night?

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

Re: $10-$20 live game, pocket Kings in the BB and your opponent is ...
 

No, that's a bad laydown against another 2+2er.