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greenroom1 07-21-2005 01:35 AM

AKs - 600 NL PP
 
I don't post very often but would appreciate feedback on this hand.

600 NL PP blinds $3/6
Table is loose passive. Button has been playing tight agressive and has been playing very well.

SB 465
BB 615
Hero 989
UTG+1 780
CO 246
Button 2606


I am UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I raise to $20
Folds to the button who reraises to $50
Hero calls

Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero Checks
Villian bets: $70
Hero calls

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero Checks
Villian Bets 175
Hero Calls

river: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero Checks
Villian bet $500
Hero folds

Should I have bet or reraised the flop, or should I have folded the turn?

AZK 07-21-2005 02:32 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
Because of your stack size I normally lead this flop.

Garland 07-21-2005 02:45 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
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Because of your stack size I normally lead this flop.

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Leading the flop is not the answer. You'll only get blown off the nut flush draw when the aggressive button raises, and the board provides no reason for tight big stacked villian to believe his hand still isn't good.

Check-call the flop and check-fold the turn unimproved.

Garland

-Skeme- 07-21-2005 02:54 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
River check-call is good. I fold the turn.

CamelZoo 07-21-2005 02:57 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
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River check-call is good . I fold the turn.

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???

greenroom1 07-21-2005 03:09 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
Was it a mistake to consider the two overcards as outs. I figured I had 15 outs which made calling correct as long as he didnt have a set or AA/KK.

I should have bet 3/4s to a pot size bet on the flop, but I get timid in the face of a reraise from a tight player preflop. I figured holding the AK made him less likely to have AA/KK. The pots odds were right to call the flop. The turn is questionable, because I think if a spade hit on river he would have folded to any bet.

IHateCats 07-21-2005 03:16 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
I second Garland's advice. This is a clear check/call on the flop and a check/fold on the turn. The flop looks sweet and all with that nut flush draw but you've diagrammed a solid holding by raising from UTG and he's reraised you so you're not going to sell a set here which is always a very risky bluff anyway and you don't have any reason to believe he'll fold if you try to push him here, he'll probably just price you out of your draw on a reraise. Cut your losses on the turn and move on.

thabadguy 07-21-2005 03:27 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
Since you said that button is TAG, I think it is safe to assume that his reraising on the button means more than just AA or KK. I think a checkraise on the flop tells you more about opponents hand than a lead. I normally dont like CR'ing with a draw but in this case, if you lead and he raises, then you dont know if he has something like JJ or a set. I think if you CR it gives you a whole lotta options. If he raises your checkraise, you can fold. If he calls, you can lead turn for pot and most likely take it down. Playing nut draws aggressively is the right play IMO.

thabadguy 07-21-2005 03:28 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
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Because of your stack size I normally lead this flop.

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Leading the flop is not the answer. You'll only get blown off the nut flush draw when the aggressive button raises, and the board provides no reason for tight big stacked villian to believe his hand still isn't good.

Check-call the flop and check-fold the turn unimproved.

Garland

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I think this is very weak.

Sadat X 07-21-2005 04:29 AM

Re: AKs - 600 NL PP
 
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I think a checkraise on the flop tells you more about opponents hand than a lead.

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The problem here is that this hand would hate a 3-bet. A pot-sized reraise really puts you in a tight spot.

I'm usually a very aggressive player but calling the flop and folding the turn here is probably the best course of action.


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