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12-30-2005 06:10 PM

10/20 Commerce Aces
 
1st hand post so bare with me:

7 handed in small blind with Aces
Villian who just sat down with about 4k in $25 chips (just came from a limit game-I have never seen him before) raises to 120 I cover

Good/tricky regular calls utg+1
folded to me I make it 400 to go (I make this bet as a steal often enough but villian is obviously unaware)
Villian thinks for a few seconds and calls
utg+1 folds

Flop(940): 73K suits don't matter
I check he bets 630 I call

turn: 73KK
I check villian checks

River(2200): 73KK7
I check villian bets $1000
Hero???

Comments on all would be appreciated

AZK 12-30-2005 06:12 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
bet turn

lapoker17 12-30-2005 06:13 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
why did you check/call the flop?

12-30-2005 06:15 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
I think you played it fine if you thought you were trying to set up a trap on the flop. I would fold that river.

AZK 12-30-2005 06:17 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
I don't mind the flop check, you do?

lapoker17 12-30-2005 06:21 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
no - but i think you need a reason to do it - i just want his reason.

12-30-2005 06:25 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
La-I typically bet this flop but had a feeling he hit his set of K's. Without knowing villian, I put him on queens or kings possibly jacks preflop.

I guess my line of thinking was I am either crushed or way ahead and I don't want to lose my stack in this situation and can call down not to concerned with free cards

After checking the flop, I initially felt the turn K was a decent card until he checked behind.

Looking for a better line overall

thanks

12-30-2005 06:31 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
How much would you bet on that turn AZK.

bluechip270 12-30-2005 06:34 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
I like the raise preflop. B/c you are in the SB, and will be 1st to act the entire way through, its impt that you bet high enough, that way it will be easier to define ur opponenets hand.

On the flop, I like the check, but I would have reraised him instead of calling. If he has AK, you want to get the money in asap before scary cards come. Likewise with KQ. THere is not point to give him a free card, b/c most likely the only cards that will give u action may complete his set or trips.

I would have raised the turn

fsuplayer 12-30-2005 06:45 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
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bet turn

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does this scream 'i have no king' to anyone else?

AZK 12-30-2005 07:28 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
originally read post as k737, not k37k, yes turn bet doesn't make much sense.

flawless_victory 12-30-2005 08:22 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
i dont mind your play so far... i would raise all in on river most likely.

12-30-2005 08:31 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
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i dont mind your play so far... i would raise all in on river most likely.

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the [censored]? what hand is calling a raise that aces beat?

i'd call and assume you are good here >25% of the time

flawless_victory 12-30-2005 08:44 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
99-QQ, which is most likely what he has.

NLfool 12-30-2005 10:31 PM

Re: 10/20 Commerce Aces
 
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99-QQ, which is most likely what he has.

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I don't see 99-QQ calling here enough to make it profitable

12-30-2005 10:57 PM

Results
 
I was 50/50 on calling the river bet but decided to call getting 3.2 to 1
He flipped over KK

Not trying to be results oriented I feel the hand went "as good as it could" but my play could be seen as passive.

My thoughts were any raise or bet would ensure a huge pot(high percentage chance of taking the worst of it) or scarring off a pocket pair)

I dunno know-I think given no read/experience with villian a river fold could be found. (what hand range could villian put me on to bet the river giving me over 3 to 1 if villian has qq or jj) But of course, this is commerce

thanks for the replies, off to vegas for New Years and should have some Bellagio 10/20 hands to post next week


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