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My friends and I disagree about what is the standard "2+2" play?

normal party 30 game-- 7 handed. a bit loose and very aggressive. You are on the button with TT. UTG + 1 raises, CO 3-bets. What do you do?

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i've never played the 30, but i don't feel like it matters which road you take, as i doubt any is that much better/worse than the others.

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i've never played the 30, but i don't feel like it matters which road you take, as i doubt any is that much better/worse than the others.

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This does not make any sense.

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i've never played the 30, but i don't feel like it matters which road you take, as i doubt any is that much better/worse than the others.

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This does not make any sense.

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uh, ok.

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I'm not sure how +EV it is to play TT for three bets...so i'm either folding or capping it, depending on the UTG player. Is he solid, is he he loose? Will he fold for an additional 2-bets??

The most common hand for the CU in this situation (assuming he's a 2+2er) would be a small to mid PP and he's raising to isolate, correct?

Or, is he someone who is most like raising for value here?

I think it's completely dependant on your read of the players in question.

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I'm not sure how +EV it is to play TT for three bets...so i'm either folding or capping it, depending on the UTG player. Is he solid, is he he loose? Will he fold for an additional 2-bets??

The most common hand for the CU in this situation (assuming he's a 2+2er) would be a small to mid PP and he's raising to isolate, correct?

Or, is he someone who is most like raising for value here?

I think it's completely dependant on your read of the players in question.

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Its also quite possible he has a big pair, like bigger than tens. Or a big Ace that certainly has 2 overs. This hand is going to be really difficult to play post flop. I voted for fold.

lf

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i've never played the 30, but i don't feel like it matters which road you take, as i doubt any is that much better/worse than the others.

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This does not make any sense.

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really? well what is your estimate of the EV of TT in that spot if hero

a) caps
b)calls
c) folds

and what is the size of the difference between the largest EV and smallest EV of teh choices?

Barron

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I'm not sure how +EV it is to play TT for three bets...so i'm either folding or capping it, depending on the UTG player. Is he solid, is he he loose? Will he fold for an additional 2-bets??

The most common hand for the CU in this situation (assuming he's a 2+2er) would be a small to mid PP and he's raising to isolate, correct?

Or, is he someone who is most like raising for value here?

I think it's completely dependant on your read of the players in question.

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Its also quite possible he has a big pair, like bigger than tens. Or a big Ace that certainly has 2 overs. This hand is going to be really difficult to play post flop. I voted for fold.

lf

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Hell,I 've folded QQ in this spot when it's been capped before it got to me....so folding TT to three bets cannot be a bad thing in the long run....

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raise and reraise, i fold TT without hesitation.

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i've never played the 30, but i don't feel like it matters which road you take, as i doubt any is that much better/worse than the others.

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This does not make any sense.

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really? well what is your estimate of the EV of TT in that spot if hero

a) caps
b)calls
c) folds

and what is the size of the difference between the largest EV and smallest EV of teh choices?

Barron

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well, if he folds it is zero..that is all i know, but i am not very bright.