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I guess my real question is, how does betting the turn in this position help my hand?


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It's a value bet... and it might scare off someone... but it's mainly a value bet

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I reraise preflop, but why the hell do you check the turn?

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Why do you bet the river but not the turn? On the turn you have no reason not to raise.

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I had 3 guys call my flop raise and then the flush card hits, I guess you could say I was a little wary. I bet the river because it seemed like a blank and I likely had the best hand...

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Oh, you get scared by the flushcard, but then not by a card that makes a 4-straight?
I'm more worried about a straight than a flush.

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/grunch on

This looks like a pretty easy fold on the turn for me. If the LAG is indeed raising/calling with anything, having both the flush out there, plus the straight, plus that many people in the pot, your Top is beat.

/grunch off

edit: blah, i misread the OP. Here's the deal, you bet the turn. However I'm pretty sure that the button has the flush. I think he was checking for deception. If you bet that turn, I think he would raise you. If that is the case, I would fold.

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Flushes don't occur that often. This is an easy turn bet with position.

Button picked up a straight on the river.

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My question is, does betting the turn punish an open ended straight draw at that point?

10 to 1 seems like odds are in his favorite to begin with, if he's gonna call anyway without knowing the odds are good what point is betting?

I guess my real question is, how does betting the turn in this position help my hand?

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Because it's +EV. If you have the best hand, which you probably do, and he's getting correct odds to call a bet with a drawing hand, checking is certainly +EV, because most of the time (>50%) his draw will miss. But betting is _more_ +EV. You can calculate the EV for yourself.

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If you want to play this preflop I would 3-bet it. Otherwise just fold.

Bet the turn, bet/call the river, and take the suckout like a man [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Yesterday I had pocket pair make a set three times, only to have them all busted by a straight, then a flush, then a FH, all by the same person. That's a bad run there [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Balls to the Wall, have to go for it.

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reraise PF, bet the turn.

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I play the flop the same. I bet this turn. My hand is strong, and no one got rowdy about the third spade. I bet / call on the river.

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Agreed u really need to bet the turn to protect ur hand. and even if they all call its not to bad sins no player shown any strenght by re-rasing. I think ur drawn out on the river so i would check this river and call a bet, to big pot to fold in.

GL // Dunno