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10-31-2005 01:53 PM

How\'s this? (ATo)
 
Did I play this well or should I have bet the river?

Villian is 42.6/4.3/1.06/47

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (7 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7 BB

hemstock 10-31-2005 01:56 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
You missed a value bet on the river

SocialWelfareIV 10-31-2005 02:00 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
[ QUOTE ]
You missed a value bet on the river

[/ QUOTE ]

Raise preflop as well.

SnglMaltScotch 10-31-2005 02:01 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
This hand is pretty ugly IMO.

You should have raised preflop 100% of the time. Opening on the button is a raise/fold situation. Never limp on the button.
You should have raised the flop 100% of the time against this villian.

The whole hand would play different from there.

MrWookie47 10-31-2005 02:02 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
Raise preflop (big mistake), raise the flop, raise the turn, bet the river (even bigger mistake).

1/4.

10-31-2005 02:06 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
Well. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Raising the flop would probably have caused him to fold after my turn bet.

That's why I waited for the turn, to get 2 dollar out of him instead of 1.

And I realise now I should have bet the river, since chances were nil he had a better hand.

bozlax 10-31-2005 02:14 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Raising the flop would probably have caused him to fold after my turn bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

And not raising the flop gives him a cheap shot at his overcards or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] flush draw. Would you rather win the pot on the turn, or have a king, queen or jack fall on the river (there are 12 cards out there that make you unhappy, and only 5 that you love with your TPTK hand on the flop)?

milesdyson 10-31-2005 02:19 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Raising the flop would probably have caused him to fold after my turn bet.

That's why I waited for the turn, to get 2 dollar out of him instead of 1.

[/ QUOTE ]
so he'll fold if you raise the flop and bet the turn, but he won't fold if you call the flop and raise the turn? you have it backwards. he'll fold more often when you play it this way.

but the preflop and river play are worse than the flop and turn play.

tassie 10-31-2005 02:20 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
...and it is very likely you have the best hand. If you don't raise when you probably have the best hand what are you gonna raise with?

aces_dad 10-31-2005 02:24 PM

Re: How\'s this? (ATo)
 
I agree, this pf play needs work and the river is an easy value bet. Focus on those aspects first then worry about the flop/turn play. In general if you never waited until the turn to raise this you won't be loosing much, and compared to the preflop and river those are much bigger mistakes right now.


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