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hit_the_set 08-07-2005 01:39 AM

Do you push this flop?
 
UTG+1 is a very tight player. Something like 10/7/4. Dont think he is capable of making any moves. With no apparent draw on the board, I figured I will try to trap him. He later asked me If I had AK. His PF minraise could mean anything from a high pocket pair to AK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I think he folded QQ or JJ.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP3 ($775)
CO ($351)
Button ($962)
SB ($2348.50)
BB ($2233)
UTG ($2077)
UTG+1 ($1245)
UTG+2 ($1984)
Hero ($2426)
MP2 ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10. MP2 posts a blind of $20.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $60.

Flop: ($250) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $500</font>, Hero calls $360.

Turn: ($1250) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $800</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: $2050

edge 08-07-2005 02:00 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
Looks completely standard to me.

-Skeme- 08-07-2005 02:22 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
Doesn't reraising a super tight player, who opened UTG+1, seem like an -EV play? What's his PFR?

hit_the_set 08-07-2005 02:31 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
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Doesn't reraising a super tight player, who opened UTG+1, seem like an -EV play? What's his PFR?

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PFR is something like 5%. He had raised(4*BB) from same position in an earlier hand with kings.

-Skeme- 08-07-2005 02:36 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
Would you ever do this without the set?

08-07-2005 02:39 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
How offen do you reraise preflop? With his stack size I think I'll min reraise him on the flop... theres no way I'm calling with that bet. A minreraise might get a call here where a all in push will not and if called your both getting all your money in no matter what comes.

again it's a call pf against him.

Sanctus49

thabadguy 08-07-2005 02:39 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
If he is very straightforward, then I would check behind on turn, raise /bet river to eek out a little extra.

hit_the_set 08-07-2005 02:58 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
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How offen do you reraise preflop?

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This is one aspect of my game I am looking to work on. I reraise quite a bit from late position. Its all very player dependent. I play only 2 tables and make sure I watch hands I am not involved in.

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With his stack size I think I'll min reraise him on the flop... theres no way I'm calling with that bet. A minreraise might get a call here where a all in push will not and if called your both getting all your money in no matter what comes.




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Exactly why I posted this. Do you push this flop against a tight player? A cold call and turn raise would work against a LAG right? A min reraise here with the stack sizes here is basically putting him allin!

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again it's a call pf against him.


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Point taken. Thanks

flawless_victory 08-07-2005 11:08 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
reraise more preflop, i like 125/150 ok. 100 is just too tinytiny.
on the flop he already put half his little shortie stack in, so just move in.
when he calls with QQ with 2 sec on his clock and loses, taunt him in the chat box... haha you effing nit! play with me and you will get broke shortie! NUTS! etc.etc.

08-07-2005 11:21 AM

Re: Do you push this flop?
 
Whats wrong with you flawless?


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