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JDErickson 12-03-2005 02:02 PM

Aces full vs semi scary board
 
Live 4/8 game at Tuscany in Vegas.

Opponent here is either semi drunk or craves action. He has shown down river bluff raises with nothing and is losing quickly. He has me covered.

I get AA in EP and raise. folded to villain in BB who calls.

Flop AK5 rainbow. Villain checks, I bet, villain Cr's, I 3 bet, he caps.

Turn 5
Villain checks, I bet, villain throws 8 chips in and then says raise (I cry while dealer tells villain he can not raise).

River K
Villain bets, Hero ?????

At this point I have approx 4 bets left. How far do I go on this board?

newhizzle 12-03-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
jackpot?

i dont know, with 4 BBs left id probly go all in, but theres definately a good chance youre up against quads, normally i guess raise and call a 3 bet, maybe 4 bet call a five bet?

with your read, how do you think hes playing non-flopped-set hands here?

i mean i guess K5 is possible and dosent require him to be crazy or anything, what do you think his flop capping range is here?

MainEvent 12-03-2005 02:22 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
Even if I had considerably more than 4 bets left, I'd easily go 4 bets against this guy. Re-read your description of him. Do you not think he'd play this way with any King-rag....or even possibly any 5?

Additionally, if I were up against a reasonable player, I think I'd still go 4 bets with the 3rd nuts here. Again, maybe more depending on the situation.

12-03-2005 02:28 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
Villain doesn't have KK in BB and just call and then c/r flop with a set.

TheHip41 12-03-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
[ QUOTE ]
Live 4/8 game at Tuscany in Vegas.

Opponent here is either semi drunk or craves action. He has shown down river bluff raises with nothing and is losing quickly. He has me covered.

I get AA in EP and raise. folded to villain in BB who calls.

Flop AK5 rainbow. Villain checks, I bet, villain Cr's, I 3 bet, he caps.

Turn 5
Villain checks, I bet, villain throws 8 chips in and then says raise (I cry while dealer tells villain he can not raise).

River K
Villain bets, Hero ?????

At this point I have approx 4 bets left. How far do I go on this board?

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I'd probably cap it, unless my gut/read at the table told me to just call the 3 bet. It's HU, this guy could easily have A5, and A, K5, who knows.

newhizzle 12-03-2005 02:33 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
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Villain doesn't have KK in BB and just call and then c/r flop with a set.

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actually, yeah, looking at the preflop action id say a player of this description probly never has KK and rarely even 55, id probly call a 5 or 7 bet

me454555 12-03-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
1) You should never have 4bbs left

2) I'm putting all 4 BBs into the pot b/c the likelyhood that villain has exactly KK or 55 is slim. He coudl easily have a single 5 or a single K. You essentially have to raise the river at least once, when villain 3 bets you will have to at least call leaving you w/1 bb left. Do you really want that situation? Just throw in your last BB. If he shows down quads, take your jackpot and get outta there b/c you'll be tilt for a lil bit. If he don't got quads then you'll be 1 more BB richer, eitehr way is good.

newhizzle 12-03-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
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If he shows down quads, take your jackpot and get outta there b/c you'll be tilt for a lil bit.

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i dont think id be on tilt if i just won a jackpot, im assuming there probably wasnt one here though, if there was, id go a lot of bets, either way you get paid

damaniac 12-03-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Aces full vs semi scary board
 
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Opponent here is either semi drunk or craves action. He has shown down river bluff raises with nothing and is losing quickly. He has me covered.

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I can't believe we are scared with 4 bb's left that a villain of this description has quads. We lose to two hands and against a player of this description, not capping sucks, unless you have more information you haven't told us.

JDErickson 12-03-2005 05:30 PM

Results
 
My plan was to put all the rest of my money in if it came to it. Not sure exactl on what I had left, it may have been a little more then 4 bets.

The only hand I could see to be wary of would be 55. His action on the turn in trying to raise told me he had a 5. Just hopefully not 2 of them.

I raised the river and he 3 bet, I 4 bet and he called.

He turned over T5 and my hand was good.


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