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LoaferGee12 11-21-2005 01:38 AM

44 blind defense
 
Villain is 40/12 and nohting has stood out of him postflop.

Edit: 6-max
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...

Not sure if should check-call, bet-fold, or check-fold here. Also, the rest of the hand seem ok?

11-21-2005 01:42 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
First of all, is there really a need to "defend" your blind from a UTG pfr?

2nd, I'd fold the flop because I don't want to put myself in any sticky situations when the pot is small. Reverse implied odds, no?

Vote4Pedro 11-21-2005 01:44 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
Check/Calling really sucks imo...If youre checking, you should be folding to a bet...

Personally I like bet/folding

bottomset 11-21-2005 01:44 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
6max?
10handed?
something inbetween?

edit: or I could just count the folds .. I'm lazy, so tell me next time

um preflop is fine

flop turn are fine

river depends on how he plays Ahigh/Khigh if he always bets if you check, you are better served to check/call

if he checks behind Ahigh, but will call with it, bet/fold

if he checks behind Ahigh/Khigh, and doesn't call a river bet ... check/fold

cold_cash 11-21-2005 01:48 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
If you check and he bets, what are your chances of calling and winning?

If you bet and he calls, how often are you winning?

MrWookie47 11-21-2005 01:48 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
At a 5 handed table, this should obviously be defense. Hell, it's defense at a 10 handed table. If you are in the BB, you're always "defending."

I think if you're not going to fold the flop, this is the way to play it. A postflop read is really necessary to know whether to bet or check. The question is if he'll bet A high here when checked to. If so, check and call. If he'll check it behind, but call if you bet, then betting is better. I'd probably default to betting.

11-21-2005 01:54 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
I just meant that its not exactly a "steal" that you have to defend against when its coming from somebody more than 3 seats to your right; correct me if this is flawed thinking.

Steve

LoaferGee12 11-21-2005 01:54 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
[ QUOTE ]
6max?
10handed?
something inbetween?

[/ QUOTE ]
6-max.

LoaferGee12 11-21-2005 01:55 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
[ QUOTE ]
I just meant that its not exactly a "steal" that you have to defend against when its coming from somebody more than 3 seats to your right; correct me if this is flawed thinking.

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

This is blind defense. Just not neccesarily agaginst a 'steal'

MrWookie47 11-21-2005 01:56 AM

Re: 44 blind defense
 
That's true, but UTG at a 5 handed table still has an expanded range (in general) from a 10 handed UTG raise. Furthermore, that's a flop that's not all that likely to have hit him.


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