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SCfuji 05-26-2005 12:58 AM

anybody have a risk of ruin equation for poker?
 
something that uses st. dev, your winrate and your bankroll.

thanks (yes i tried the search function using "risk of ruin" as well as +risk +ruin)

dogmeat 05-26-2005 01:17 AM

Re: anybody have a risk of ruin equation for poker?
 
Well, not really. If you went by an hourly rate:

30 hands per hour
$10 average investment
1.5 big bet win per hour
SD of 16 ($240)
95% confidence level (or 5% element of ruin)


x = z.SD + mu = (1.65) (240) + 15 = 396 + 15 = $411

But of course, this assumes $300 in total bets per hour (which is not really 30x$10) but is fairly accurate for a $5/$10 game. Hey, Bruce Z - where do you go from here?

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BruceZ 05-26-2005 08:12 AM

Re: anybody have a risk of ruin equation for poker?
 
[ QUOTE ]
something that uses st. dev, your winrate and your bankroll.

thanks (yes i tried the search function using "risk of ruin" as well as +risk +ruin)

[/ QUOTE ]

Bankroll formulas and Derivation of bankroll formulas.

Lost Wages 05-27-2005 09:32 AM

Re: anybody have a risk of ruin equation for poker?
 
Bruce,

Are the formulas still accurate if you use BB/100 and SD/100? Thanks.

Lost Wages

BruceZ 05-27-2005 11:29 AM

Re: anybody have a risk of ruin equation for poker?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bruce,

Are the formulas still accurate if you use BB/100 and SD/100? Thanks.

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You can use bb/100 for the win rate if you use bb^2/100 for sigma^2. That would technically give SD units of bb/10, but I doubt the software packages report it this way. They probably give you bb/100, which actually means bb/10. If they say SD/100, that means the SD for 100 hands, which would have the correct units of bb/10. The units of sigma^2 and win rate should cancel to give bb or $.

BruceZ 05-27-2005 11:44 AM

Re: anybody have a risk of ruin equation for poker?
 
I think Poker Tracker has something called SD/100 which actually means showdowns per 100 hands (not standard deviation). The standard deviation is under session notes if you click "more detail". For 100 hands it should be a number around 17 bb, unless you play shorthanded or very aggressively, and then it would be higher.


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