Too much action given?
 

Just sat down no reads, anybody find a muck?

Ultimate Bet 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Re: Too much action given?
 

ok, please type out a well thought-out response as to why you raised the turn.

Re: Too much action given?
 

Nope.

Re: Too much action given?
 

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ok, please type out a well thought-out response as to why you raised the turn.

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Why not for straight value? Unless SB is 3-betting KJ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pf and UI on flop hero is ahead of everything except AA (unlikely, 1 combo) or TT.

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ok, please type out a well thought-out response as to why you raised the turn.

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I would raise this turn. His range here is likely to be AA, TT and AK. We are ahead of that range. He is highly unlikely to have a made flush IMO.

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I would raise this turn. His range here is likely to be AA, TT and AK. We are ahead of that range. He is highly unlikely to have a made flush IMO.

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I'm not sure how we're ahead of AA &amp; TT. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] But as those are the only two hands that are ahead of us, I think I'd raise, then call down. Edit: he possibly has QQ, but I doubt it given the flop action.

Re: Too much action given?
 

is calling the turn that bad?

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I'm not sure how we're ahead of AA &amp; TT. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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If his range is AA, TT &amp; AK :-

AA - 1 combo
TT - 3 combos
AK - 8 combos

I know he has redraws with AK (especially AxKd), but we have full house outs too. I believe we still have &gt;50% equity vs. this range.

Re: Too much action given?
 

I like everything but I don't think you are winning once he 3bets the turn. He probably has AT or TT, probably not AK. I dont think he has a flush or a straight.

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I'm not sure how we're ahead of AA &amp; TT. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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If his range is AA, TT &amp; AK :-

AA - 1 combo
TT - 3 combos
AK - 8 combos

I know he has redraws with AK (especially AxKd), but we have full house outs too. I believe we still have &gt;50% equity vs. this range.

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Gotcha. Just misread what you were saying...my bad.

Re: Too much action given?
 

I like the turn raise.

But what about just calling the flop, planning to call down UI? This seems like a WA/WB situation, and we don't want to let him get away from JJ-KK cheaply, or give too much action to AK. He's really not likely to have a good draw on the flop - K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is about the only hand I would be worried about, and lots of players wouldn't 3-bet that from SB.

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i think its close but im drunk, therefore i want a well tought out reason why to raise the turn or not!

Re: Too much action given?
 

Hmmm,
Weird hand since you can rule out him having a flush kinda. His flop play kind of suggests either AA or TT or AK.

Seems like the right amount of bets went into this pot. I would consider just calling the turn and maybe putting in one raise on the river.

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dude
you cant worry about KQs, the Q of diamonds turned [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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you cant worry about KQs, the Q of diamonds turned [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I was talking about the flop play and trying not to be results-oriented [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

and yes, my sarcasm meter is broken.