Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

Ok...last night I got killed. Just killed. Everything went wrong all night.

I think I have started playing too many hands (I'll look at pokertracker tonight) in bad spots.

In particular, I played a number of A 4 hands that got me in trouble.

1. Do you only play A 4 from late position?

2. Is A 4 with the ace suited enough to play from any position?

Thanks,

Dave

Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

Funny, I just put up a post where I folded suited A-4-5-X to pre-flop action at PL, and would have turned the straight flush.

Anyways, in the hand histories, are you calling down with losing A 4 lows? I suck at 08, but that could be a leak.

Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

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1. Do you only play A 4 from late position?

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Yes. But you want more to your hand than just a naked A4 low draw. The object of the game is to scoop the pot.

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2. Is A 4 with the ace suited enough to play from any position?

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No. You want to see a cheap flop and hope you hit your hand. If you are in early position you will not know whether players behind you are going to raise.

Because your A4 low is marginal, the remainder of your hand should be very well coordinated. From late position I would play hands like A456s, A45Fs and A4FFs where F=face card. All of these hands have a suited Ace. I do not play A4 type hands without being suited.

Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

I need at least 3 other things going for it to make A4 playable for me. Those can be
1. suited to ace
2. I can see flop for 1 bet
3. the other cards work well (i.e. coordinated or doublesuited like A4TJ, A457, A46Kds)
4. late position
5. a 5 in my hand
6. the table is passive
7. other players play badly postflop
8. I have a good chance to steal blinds with a raise

Fwiw, the Hutchinson system treatment of A4 basically amounts to:
Play A4 if with 2 of the following: suited A, 5, QQ/KK, KQ/QJ/QJ

-g

Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

I need 2 other things to make A4 playable in limit, a deuce and a trey.

Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

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I need at least 3 other things going for it to make A4 playable for me. Those can be
1. suited to ace
2. I can see flop for 1 bet
3. the other cards work well (i.e. coordinated or doublesuited like A4TJ, A457, A46Kds)
4. late position
5. a 5 in my hand
6. the table is passive
7. other players play badly postflop
8. I have a good chance to steal blinds with a raise

Fwiw, the Hutchinson system treatment of A4 basically amounts to:
Play A4 if with 2 of the following: suited A, 5, QQ/KK, KQ/QJ/QJ

-g

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Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

1. Not always, but playing in late position with this hand is a great benefit. If Im playing in a very loose but passive table, though, with weak opponents, I dont see much problem with playing A4 (with a little more to go with it) from early position. At a passive table position becomes less important because you dont have the fear of a raise behind you. As a result, its like your playing the hand from a later position.
2. No. But I play most of them. Id fold suited A4 hands like A479. (limit O/8)

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I need 2 other things to make A4 playable in limit, a deuce and a trey.

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Then you are a pussy. You might want to consult with the fella that puts the O8poker.com website together. His advice on A-4 might make you some money.

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I need 2 other things to make A4 playable in limit, a deuce and a trey.

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Then you are a pussy. You might want to consult with the fella that puts the O8poker.com website together. His advice on A-4 might make you some money.

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You da man, niss!

Re: Help with Ace 4 hands in Limit O8
 

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I need 2 other things to make A4 playable in limit, a deuce and a trey.

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Then you are a pussy. You might want to consult with the fella that puts the O8poker.com website together. His advice on A-4 might make you some money.

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Copy and pasting what other people write, then putting it on your own website, does not make it "your advice".